I wondered when the Left would start spitting on veterans again

Religion has almost nothing to do with politics. At least former president John Kennedy an excellent example of a religions man claimed.

 

Because you personnaly didn't means that none did?
Come on. You can do better than that.

 

Offer us the name of the troop that demanded respect for just being in the military.

 

I'm not confused, no. You're simply lacking in broad understanding of sociopolitical anthropology.

Conservatism is the idea that a single, fixed political model is perpetually the answer. Irregardless of changing times, social evolution, war, famine, natural disaster, disease, good times, economic flux, whatever. It's the belief that your very specific politic is always going to be the best response. It's an ideology-driven belief (just like religion). Different times and conditions demand different responses, obviously, so there is also a high degree of naivety involved.

Progressivism - the real thing - OTOH, understands that while a particular political model may be what's needed today (as liberalism was needed in the 1960s, for example), a completely different model may be needed tomorrow. A genuine progressive is absolutely okay with that, because for them it's about PROGRESS, not ideology. Besides, forward momentum cannot be maintained without occasionally changing vehicles according to terrain. There is a lack of naivety in this position, because it accepts the reality that no one politic is really better than another (over time).

Finally: Progress itself differs according to the time and conditions. Mistaking progress for a single ideology is the very opposite of progress. One day it could be transgender bathrooms, and the next day it could be a one child policy. We don't know what it will be in future because we haven't arrived there yet.

 

I'm not sure why that is. Can't speak for American military.

My experience is strictly with vets, and not in America.

 

If the thing to be conserved is what is the most perfect system that evolved over the centuries, it is progress. We republicans so admire freedom we admire the founders. They had warts too.

No need to dwell on them since they are removed.

Democrats believe in authority. Their brand of authority. Look at this nation since 1933. A land of mostly Democrats in the jobs as rule makers. Presidents do not make rules, they must obey rules and reinforce rules using the executive branch.

So to Democrats, they keenly want the congress and Senate. That is where they came up with ACA and Dodd Frank. No way could Obama do it but the two houses in Congress managed to get it done.

 

This fits perfectly here; the liberal/progressive/socialist big-government, anti-1A ninny who decries 'hate speech' and wants to silence anyone who disagrees with her opinions:

 

You're muddling the politics of the day with the themes of progressivism and conservatism.

The 'most perfect system' is one which is open to either model of politics, it's not contained wholly within one or the other. One model can be perfect one day (according to prevailing need and conditions), and another on another day. Sometimes absolute liberty is necessary, and sometimes authority is necessary. The point is that a CONSERVATIVE (be they a 'Progressive', or religious) attempts to conserve the preferred model for all times.

 

LOL. As if I was keeping a list of name... You're not that important. But you see the simple fact that you can't let it go without demanding something as frivolous as a list of names kind of reinforce my point.

 

In my country, a veteran is someone who served in a theatre of war. Those who served in the military, but not in a theatre of war, are simply servicemen and women. I can't speak for America.

 

sigh. it was simply a comparison. Progressives are effectively the same as Religious Fundamentalists. Both groups are wedded to a fixed ideology .. which they believe to be eternally 'good and holy'.

 

YES!! You see, I watch comedy to laugh and not get offended, because you know, it's comedy. I swear, the entire Country has lost it's sense of humor.

 

I have never seen the two groups in such a parallel. I shall read your comemntary and try to grasp why you so accept this. At my age of 80, take all the time you need since I am not on the death bed yet.

I happen to be a church member. In my church, politics is not a topic. My area of expertise as a so called fundamentalist is my belief in two major things.

GOD as a very scientific creator of the universe.
JESUS as his devoted son and servant doing his mission on Earth to persuade humans GOD is not some object, not some animal, but a genuine Creator of the physics of the universe.

Politics definitely is attached to a belief system. I have the freedom to accept GOD. Your politics may put different demands on you. If you stop to think it over, Democrats spew a venom against religion while Republicans take the high road that you enjoy the right to believe what you desire to believe.

Democrats more favor Muslims than they favor Christians. Democrats get bent out of shape at the Jews. Democrats never are bent out of shape at Atheists and as said, at Muslims.

 

So, though you never saw it happen, comedy vs Obama is kewl kittens?

https://nypost.com/2014/08/24/why-comedians-and-snl-are-shielding-president-obama/

 

YES! And comedy against Obama happened all the time. It's not my fault you cons are so programmed to believe that no Liberal ever gets roasted by comedians programmed into your heads.

 

I will tell you a joke about Obama since you enjoy laughing.

Donald Trump kept with White House tradition by pardoning a turkey ahead of the US Thanksgiving holiday. He also joked that he could not undo his predecessor Barack Obama's pardons to other turkeys.

"President Obama met with the leaders of Mexico and Canada. Obama said he's trying to figure out where to live if Trump wins." –Conan O'Brien

"President Obama is apparently interested in owning an NBA team after he leaves office. You'll know it's Obama's team when they travel too much and never pass anything." –Jimmy Fallon

"I want to wish a happy birthday to President Obama, who turned 55 today. Big celebration at the White House.


The White House staff sang to him. Then the president blew out the candles on his vegan, whole-grain, carrot prune loaf." –Jimmy Kimmel

"Tonight, President Obama is going to make a speech trying to convince people to vote for Hillary Clinton instead of Donald Trump. It’s a speech entitled, 'I Can’t Believe This Is Necessary.'" –Conan O'Brien

"It's been reported that after leaving office, President Obama is considering owning an NBA team. They say Obama wants to be an NBA owner because it's his only chance to get someone on the court." –Conan O'Brien

"Donald Trump said in a new interview that President Obama visited a mosque yesterday because 'he feels comfortable there.' Or maybe it's just because it's the one place Obama knew he'd never run into Donald Trump." –Seth Meyers

"President Obama gave a speech this afternoon in which he angrily called out Republicans for being too obsessed with his refusal to use the term 'radical Islam' — or as Fox News reported it, 'Angry Black Man Spotted Talking About Radical Islam Near Capitol Building.'" –James Corden

"The president has a lot going on as he wraps up his term in office, including the construction of his presidential library in Chicago.


It will be a place devoted entirely to Obama and his achievements — or as that’s also known, MSNBC." –Jimmy Fallon

 

i am thrilled you approve comedy involving Obama yet do you see the comedy directed at Obama as the vile form directed at Trump?

 

The 2 highlighted above are my favorites of the ones you posted

 

You are conflating a religion and politics.

I speak of forming a perfect nation, wasn't that a claim by Abraham Lincoln?

Perfect does not mean finished.

I happen to reject the religious belief in being a Democrat.

 

Perhaps if our POTUS wasn't so vile himself, the comedy may be different. Just throwing that out there.

 

I don't regard 80 as old. I have two parents in their 80's who are still swimming/cycling daily. My in laws are also in their 80's, and frequent world travellers. 98 .. that's old. But not tooo old, know what I mean? No reason we can't be active and in reasonably good health at 98.

 

Ah .. special pleading, I see. Well that tells us much

 

NO, I am comparing Progressives to Religious people. Both believe that their preferred philosophy is the eternal answer (to every time, and every situation). IOW, both are ideologues. Progressives, therefore, are not political. They are, in effect, 'religious'.

 

A comedian who should never be taken seriously goes a bit too far, and you are blaming the entire Left? Difficult to decide who is more sick. You are really desperate.

 

Weak.