If I was Prime Minister

I don't think I will see it in my lifetime either. Australian politicians are such US whores, they will keep licking their US masters arse until the barbarians actually sack the country. And the people are so bloody stupid, they don't realise or understand that by politicians taxing them without their consent is nothing more than abject slavery. Who else but slaves get money and items taken away from them without their consent? Certainly not free people.

 

Well it's been two weeks, the child murders are still refusing to allow in the inspectors, I base my decision of guilt on the fact that it is the rebels who are stopping them and the Ruskies are sitting on their hands. If you have nothing to hide, why hide it.

The Russians will be laughing their heads off at us while downing a few bottles of Vodka and heading off to man their missile launchers. "Hey Vlad, Russians wouldn't be such big (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), if it was the other way around".

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The owl and the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) cat went to sea. <------- Talk about Political Correctness gone mad.

Ok new poem, especially for the forum, The owl and the Felis catus went to sea. Nah not the same

OK The owl and the fanny went to sea. <----- Stupid yanks LOL

I remember back in the 70's some Yank sailors were in the club I was working at. A woman stood up and slapped one, as the bouncer I went to see what was going on. She said to me "He asked me to stand up so he could see my fanny" LMAO

 

Speaking of child murderers: LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

 

Yes I know, but that is not what I am about, that on the face of it is worse, but I haven't researched up on that, I am talking about this incident not that one, I am not in the slightest bit interested in the politics at this point in time, lets get a) Our peoples bodies back home and their families some closure. b) Let's get the evidence of what happened if there is anything left. c) Lets find out who did it. Then we can come back and debate the politics.

 

if it was in an area held by separatists, they would likely welcome them.

 

I doubt that Australia would accept a random nation offering to send military assets into Australia.

 

didn't Oz just send a bunch of cops to secure the crash scene?

 

How does that prove Australia would accept another country sending their military into Australia?

 

It all been a cheap stunt by Abbott & Bishop, as I suspected from the very start.

http://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/news/australia-unlikely-join-united-states-mh17/2334876/

 

Again you miss my point on the entire issue. Perhaps the fact that everybody is being told that by finding out what nationality the explosive is that took down the flight will show it was supplied by Russia and their involvement....

NEWS FLASH... I would be surprised if it was not Russian no matter who used it. For decades Russia has been supplying the Ukraine and demonstrating it was Russian ordinance will only please the most stupid of people. If this actually makes any head way it would have to be the worst lie told to the world. Far worse than the weapons of mass destruction, at least it had some circumstantial evidence that had the slightest credibility (which turned out wrong)

This entire saga falls great for the EU, and so far countries are lining up to assist... just stupid.

True but Swan was a real dick that his own party admitted was inept. It just demonstrated the true identity of the ALP with their lack of ability and forethought.

The thing is that Australia is simply running with the accusation from the rest of the world. Have you not noticed rhetoric changed very quickly from the US and other nations within days??? The US and the EU has been leading the way to accuse Russia for this event with all their supposed Intel (which I might add is publically stated as majority of social media). Australian media have been paramount in creating the picture of what the government is saying as they have all along. One piece of evidence saying Russia is involved was the words of that dick US politician saying they have social media pictures of a rocket launcher being towed away with one missing missile. Which quickly became towed back to Russian territory, never was that stated.

But the one thing that has been shown with Australia's seat on the council is that diplomacy globally is highly respected through the good work of both government representatives... Australia bought the seat (which I don't agree with) but the move to the head was through good diplomacy, it is a shame the governments could not have been led in the same manner.

WW3 is really occurring, people are shooting at each other and nations are aligning. The US will not be alone, as many nations will line up, but this time they will face a formidable force and the outcome is not cut and dry because the enemy has more than just pitchforks and rocks. The middle east is reverberating with blood lust and China has been flexing its elbows, now the most expansive regime (all be it an economic one) is pushing hard. Don't get it wrong, War is not simply lining up against each other and trying to kill each other, it starts with manoeuvre and diplomacy. breaking out the troops is the last resort when all else fails. which is why the point of sanctions only leading to war and clearly they always do...

I make no case to condemn any nation, I make case to condemn governments. The US has been very busy in past trying its best to make the world a better place in their eyes. Is it the best way??? We can debate but truth is we will never really know. The US has been very busy trying to stop wars, consider their efforts (worthless as they are) with Israel. Many times convincing them not to go to war just to name one. True it has made little difference as the present shows but they have tried.

Iraq... simple as that. Agree or not but if Saddam left unchecked would still be trying his best to commit genocide...

 

Holding Russia responsible and accountable by placing sanctions on Russia, because someone used Russian military weapons irresponsibly, is completely insane.

How many of these upstanding and forthright countries that want to sanction Russia, wanted to sanction the USA over flight 655? There is one small difference between Russia and the USA in this matter. A USA ship did shoot down flight 655, but Putin had no part in shooting down flight MH 17.

Abbott & Bishop got it wrong from day one by making assumptions based on a falacy. I would have throught as leading representatives of Australia and its citizens, they would have, and should have, known better. This is the kind of mistake you would expect form unqualified and inexperienced individual; not the Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister of a Country.

Everyone is entitled to make a mistake, but not this type of mistake, and it clearly demonstrates that there was someone behind our politicians pushing their own personal agenda, and it was not an agenda that was in the best interest of Australia or the Australian people.

With all due respect, the USA on its own, and being part of the UN, has accomplished absolutely nothing with Israel and Palestine within that past 40 years. A few cease-fires here 'n' there, but they are still at each others throats. Doesn't it beg the question. "If the USA and UN (with all the money and influence at their disposal) cannot stop this conflict between Israel and Palestine, then what relevance are they in the world anymore"? Doesn't it seem logical that we need another stronger group of people besides the UN and the USA to stop this conflict, and other conflicts that are killing innocent civilians.

It doesn't a genius to comprehend that the UN is a nursing home where countries stash their useless politicians.

Saddam didn't have any WMD, and that's what the war was based on.

 

we already know they would...the US Marines are there.

 

The US and Australia are officially allies.

 

does that make them the same country now? well, hot damn! MickeyD's is going to start selling 'roo burgers!!!

 

The point has gone right over your head, hasn't it?

 

No I think over yours.

 

How so? There is a huge difference between Australia agreeing to allow an official ally to station some troops in an Australian base and making the claim that Australia would allow any military forces to come into Australia.

 

Yes but you are comparing Australia to Ukraine as things are in Australia at the present day. Australia may have an entirely different attitude if it was ever in a similar situation.

 

All I can see is that governments nearly all over the world seem to put power, position, greed and religion before humanity itself which makes it all seem so bloody stupid.

 

you have no point. Oz has foreign troops on it's soil.

but that's ok, the US does too...not as many from one country, but once they all got added up, it's likely to be more.

 

As I said............

 

so let's recap.

you said Oz would never allow foreign troops on it's soil.

i bought up the USMC.

you, "herpdurp".

 

You completely missed the context of this discussion. Try again.

 

what's there to try? you pwn'd yourself.

 

Sigh. There is a difference between allowing an ally to be stationed on one of your own bases and a country demanding to be allowed access.