If Mohammad was alive today, and had sex with a kid, would Muslims demand jail time?

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, its pure pathological bigotry
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    California doesn't have a minimum age for marriage and Kansas & Massachusetts says 12 years old is good to go. http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/state-by-state-marriage-age-of-consent-laws.html

    A couple of muslim countries are pushing to lower the marriage age to 9 so why would muslims condemn Mohammed? Remember, the age of consent was 7 in America.
     
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    Do you condemn Allah for not simply telling Mohammad "stop doing the kid* - or else it will cause harm to little girls in the future, for one thing"?

    *Aisha, who Mohammad porked at 9 years-old, and masturbated on her thighs starting a 6 years-old, and who had his eye on her for future sex when she was a BABY.
     
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    Two wrongs don't make a right, my friend.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you admit that attacking Muslims is wrong, yes?
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Where's the wrong? Don't States regulate marriage laws? And can't foreign countries establish their own laws? Other countries, like India and some African countries, are far worse by even muslim standards.
     
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    Instructions to make "instant hate" - select one or more MISCHARACTERIZATION(s), mix with an idiotic LIE or two to pump up the emotional flavor and voila.
    Yep Instant hate: Made in seconds yet delivering a lifetime of ignorant emotionally satisfying bigotry.
     
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    Every non-Muslim should read the Sira. It is a very good read.
    Islam is a very straight forward religion - it is not subtle or hard to understand - read Muhammed's biography and you will get it. Do that and you can even understand the Koran. ;-)
     
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    If they give their children a book, and say it's the best book of all time, from the all-knowing "creator of the universe" no less, and said book says to fight us until we are all Muslims (Q8:39), then calling them out ("attacking" them, as you refer to it), is NOT wrong. It's a service to humanity, actually. Do you condemn Q8:39 for saying this?
    Mohsin Khan: And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do. - Q8:39.
     
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    Science shows us (religions don't really understand this, however) that sex with kids causes mental and/or physical damage to the kids, often. So they would be wrong for approving of sex with kids. Allah doesn't understand this, so of course Allah is not really "god" - obviously.
     
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    Some day you'll be able to muster the moral courage to condemn Allah for not telling Mohammad to stop doing the kid, like a Modern Secular Humanist can easily do. I believe in you.
    Have a great night.
     
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    Good reply.
     
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    It's HELPING Muslims, like helping an alcoholic with an intervention, to show them that there is a more ethical belief system that is better for them and for the world - that's not "bigotry", and not a bad thing.
     
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    Would ALLAH have known that science today now shows us that sex with kids is very harmful to the kid, Jonsa?
     
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    So you hate MOHAMMAD, then - since the damage he would have caused to the child would be arguably the same level of damage that a pedo TODAY does to the child - just because society at that time didn't realize that doesn't make the damage itself (physical and/or mental) he caused to the innocent child any less real.
     
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    This is not a "mischaracterization", according to the Islamic texts, at least: Aisha, who Mohammad porked at 9 years-old, and masturbated on her thighs starting a 6 years-old, and who had his eye on her for future sex when she was a BABY.
     
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    You seem to think that EXPOSING pedophilia is somehow "hate"....it's not. If, say, your niece was being sexually molested by some pedo, you of course would not think it's "hate" to expose said atrocity - you'd THANK me for exposing it.
     
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    Stop trying to give subtle, indirect, tacit approval to pedophilia.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yawn...

    that's like Hitler saying the ghettos helped the Jews
     
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    I'm not sure the Jews had texts that instructed their children to, for example, treat a woman's testimony in court as HALF that of the (apparently) far superior Muslim male.
     
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    if God (Jesus) tried to get a 12 year old Mary pregnant today, would Muslims and Christians be upset about it?

    remember, if Jesus = God, then Jesus got Mary pregnant so he could live inside her for 9 months, why not just create himself from nothing without doing this to a 12 year old girl

    many things people though were acceptable when the people created the bible would in no way be acceptable now
     
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    Well, remember that the Jewish Babylonian Talmud approves of having sex with babies as young as two years and a day in one passage. Other passages upped it to three years and a day. Now imagine the parents sitting around pimping their babies off to each other. And the age of consent was 7 in America (Delaware, 1895). I wonder how old was Mary when Joseph snatched her up, maybe three years and a day? She would have been an old maid at nine.

    And girls can get married at 12 years old or even younger in America today.
     
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    as soon as you stop giving unsubtle direct approval of the ignorant bigotry of islamophobia.
     
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    Idiotic insistence on applying 21st century morality and law to the 7th century is indicitive of a truly narrow intellect.
     
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    Its a mischaracterization. I notice you don't cite any references to the "text" you apparently are so familiar with.
     

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