If Muslims hate America(infidels), why are you here?

I can only assume that your "house of war faction" is here recruiting to eventually rise up with Sharia Law?

what other reason could working with infidels (Russia, China, America) to get weapons, could there be?

You do undrestand that without the help of the infidels you would still be launching rocks from slingshots at HumV's with 50 caliber gunners on top?

Where is Allah to help?

 

Don't worry we don't hate infidels.

 

1. Muslims have as much right to be here as you or I do.
2. They have a right to advocate Sharia Law in America, if they so choose (this is the viewpoint of most modern Secular Humanists.) HOWEVER, those who oppose Sharia Law (all sane people, lead by modern Secular Humanists) need to EXPOSE the Muslim's agenda to subjugate America under barbaric Sharia Law. I'll start a new thread about that issue.

 

I largely agree (but that's in SPITE of Mohammad's teachings, not because of them.)
I love you Kholief, and I assume that you love non-Muslims, even though we have huge ideological differences.

 

The American Muslim wasn't on the radar of the rabid American contemporary Conservative 11 years ago. But because of ther September 11 attacks and the dire need of the contemporary American Conservative to have an enemy, a scapegoat, a whipping boy, the American Muslim became those things.

It's a tragedy. None of the attackers were Americans, yet the venom so quickly and thouthlessly spewed by right wingers got aimed squarely at these peace loving tax paying Muslim citizens of this country.

 

Both American Muslims and American Christians want to convert the Infidels to their religion

also I am sure there are some Muslims that want Sharia law just as some American Christians want biblical law

the best defense against this is to enforce a separation of religion and government

 

I disagree.

If Islamic men that hate America wouldn't claim so many bombings, they would'nt be in the scope and pointed fingers at. don't you agree?

If a Rattlesnake is known to bite and inject poison, common tells you not to go near a Rattlesnake right?


same logic here.

 

Only difference is....Christians are not forcing their beliefs upon heathens. it's a free acceptance.

Islam teaches jihad, which is a deliberate fight to convert someone to Islam.

 

Also, Christians are not going into American Malls and blowing themselves up in the name of Christ in attempts to convert people. .

 

There are millions of law abiding patriotic Muslim Americans in this country. It is a shame that a few bad apples has turn a segment of our population against them. I would like too point out that those Americans that rail against their fellow Americans are doing exactly what the terrorist want. Guys you are letting them win and dividing America.

It is time for American Christians and American Muslims to stand shoulder to shoulder and declare we will support one another and our country despite the terrorists and the ignorant opinions of a few Americans that the terrorists have been able to convince.

 

Ending the belief in invisible friends ALL-TOGETHER, is the best solution. Your solution is just a band-aid to the underlying problem of religions (the disconnect from reality...that all religions are guilty of.)

 

I have known many, many Muslims- all who live or lived here in the U.S- both citizens and temporary visitors- none hated America and frankly none cared what religion anyone else was. Muslim American citizens love the U.S. as much as Jewish or Christian American citizens.

 

Hamas, the PLO and other Islamic Extremists make up more than just a few bad apples. We're talking hundreds and hundreds of active members in these organizations.

But it's typical for Radical-sympathizers to belitte their numbers to make light of the fact the Radical Fundies control the entire religion of Islam.

 

Hundreds of radicals does not make millions of people bad. That is like saying just becuase the KKK had over a million followers that all Christians are bad or all Americans. They bombed, they killed, and they ran a war of terror. Your premiss makes not since, and you are letting the terrorists suceed in their mission.

 

But wouldn't our western culture be contradictory to the tenants of Islam? so WHY would they love it and want to move here?

Only thing I can think of is to build up money to send back home to the rebels.

As in, the peaceful Muslims are the face veil to the Radicals and they need that in order to operate within our society, but once they have enough money, what do they do? they go back home and join the Jihad.

Sounds counter-productive on America's part to allow a people that destests our culture to move in, set up shop, live for decades, send money back home to extremists, etc...


I just don't get it. If Muslims hate how we live, WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?

Are you here to hopefully change us to Islam?

 

It does make sense, and here's why, I can wholeheartedly denounce the KKK as a terroist group. can you do the same for Hamas, and the PLO? I don't think so.

KKK are 100% white also which counts me out from joining since I'm black...lol..and a host of other reasons. You want to call a group a "few bad apples" the KKK is it. their numbers are so low they could fit in one Mosque in the Middle East. but not the Muslim Extremists. You need a country to house them all.

Because you are defending them now by calling them a "few bad apples" when that's a lie. I would argue almost half of Islam is Radical. they just haven't shown their true colors yet.

comparing the PLO and Hamas to the KKK is like comparing a 18-wheeler with a 10-speed.

 

Yeah, they're counting on all that liberal tolerance. Soft Jihad. We're suckers. <spit>


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Exactly.

Sell you a bean pie and smile, but behind close doors, preparing for Jihad in America, because we are infidels and they must convert or kill us all right? that's Islam!!!

. ignorant people don't see that though.

 

The KKK is very much like those two groups, except at one point in our history the KKK had WAY more members then the PLO or Hamas the KKK in the mid twenties claimed 4-5 million members. They were electing government officials and in many places making policy. At the same time the bombed, burned, and threatened all through out this country. They were not as sophisticated as the PLO or Hamas but they acted the same and claimed to be Christian.

It is easy to paint a large group of people with one brush because of the actions of a small percentage. If you are not white then you should understand the unjust way that some people judge other solely on the basis of one or two characteristics and I am not talking just race. Cultural identities, parenting, and lifestyles all prejudged based on the actions of a few or the perceived actions. Whole communities villainized because some people with an agenda want them to be.

The only real difference between the PLO, Hamas, and the KKK is that the Islamic extremists have done a better job of scaring people into acting badly against their fellow citizens.

 

I know you don't get it. I suspect you never will. You assume that all Muslims hate how we live and that in my experience is just idiotic. I have known Muslims in America for over 30 years- coming from Egypt, from India, from Palestine and Lebanon- and to one degree or another they loved America. Nothing like a Muslim-American football playing high school student dealing with Ramadan fasting to make the whole experience fascinating.

No doubt many Muslims in other parts of the world detest our culture- but guess what- plenty of people around the world who are not Muslims detest our culture(oddly enough often while liking Americans).

Muslims who are here, are here for the same reason as the rest of us are here- to get an education, to make a living, to raise a family, to look for economic security.

 

I'm going to assume that you're either Trolling or Thought challenged.

 

Actually it's a fair question. if you can't answer it, I totally understand. and I'll assume your doublepost was trolling.

 

some Christians are trying to get biblical law in our government, just as some Muslims are trying to get Sharia law in our governments

"The Palin Principle – Bible trumps Constitution"

http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/201...nt-to-base-law-on-bible-and-ten-commandments/

"Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant — they’re quite clear — that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the ten commandments." - Palin

 

Here's the difference. In America, we quelch them down. they have to operate in the shadows and can't bring that mess out or our citizens will quelcch them down again. they only do things like parades to pay homage and ride motorcycles, etc..their threat has been lessened by the spirit of the people.

Until Muslims can do that with their whackos, the Whackos will always win.

and with the help of clowns like Obama de-stabilizing countries allowing these monsters to take control of them, only makes it worse for Muslims as a whole. even if they claim the whackos are small in number. the perception is greater to the masses.



sidebar-- the roach has the reputation of being filthy for a reason. It lives is the trash of life. and if you don't want roaches in your house, you have to clean up the house, not kill the roaches when you see them. Clean the house and the roaches can't sustain themselves and will move on. fact.

 

"If Muslims hate America(infidels), why are you here?"

Sounds suspiciously like a stereotype to me.