If Trump Does Not Prosecute Hillary

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  1. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't really believe this, do you? There's no way Clinton will be prosecuted and I seriously doubt that will cause any noticeable loss of support from the Trump crowd.

    Quite frankly, anyone who thinks that Trump will have her prosecuted is exhibiting a pretty healthy portion of naivete, IMO.
     
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    That's quite a leap considering the common knowledge that campaign promises rarely come to fruition.



    And as to your other point, yes, now the system can actually work the way it was intended to work, with people in Congress putting forth legislation, and the President signing that legislation into law if it's well crafted and in line with the direction he wants to take the country. What a bold and innovative idea! You want to teach someone about the separation of powers? Perhaps you should start with Mr. Executive Order Obama...[/QUOTE]

    You seem to forget that it wasn't only democrats who opposed Trump. Also, most if not all of Trump's more prominent campaign promises cannot be done by executive order.
     
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    He was elected because enough people hate the idea of a female POTUS and hate minority groups.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Word is out that Obama plans to give her a blanket pardon. Same way Ford did for Nixon.
     
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    I would think that the Clinton Foundation investigation would go forward. Trump has a lot on his plate right now. To prosecute or not will come down the road. He has bigger fish to fry. Obama has left a complete mess! He hasn't even been inaugurated yet and you are talking about breaking promises. Geesh!
     
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    The subject of the thread is that it's a broken promise, I'm saying it was just a line and no one really cares. The promises people really care about are whether Obamacare gets repealed, immigrants are kicked out, and America is "great" again. I suspect people will be disappointed at those, and they will care.
     
  7. jrr777

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    Is that seriously the reason why you think justice should not be served, and Hillary is above the law.
     
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    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    No it wasn't! Comey let her off the hook before the investigation was done. This is why not to much longer after letting her off, 650,000 more emails were discovered on Wiener's computer. And with some emails from Hillary. In the amount of time after discovering these new emails, there was not enough time to go through them all, before they turned her loose. It took more than a month for 33,000 emails, not even close to half of the newly discovered ones. Give me a break!

    Nobody is above the law, and Hillary broke the law, just with her private server.
     
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    In my opinion this is not an excuse to allow people to be above the law. Justice for all, is what it should be. Otherwise more politicians will break the law!
     
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    Trump is a conspiracy theorist.

    I hope he gets in and releases all of the 9/11 and JFK documents.
     
  11. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You put a pathological liar in office.

    Do you really expect him to do what he says?

    You can fool some of the people all of the time ...
     
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    We are a nation of law, and there is the sentiment that SOME people are above that law. Trump should appoint a non-partisan special prosecutor to investigate not only Hillary and her foundation, but all those involved in the corruption and collusion uncovered. They should all be charged with whatever appropriate crimes they have committed, and prosecuted.

    THEN, Trump should pardon Hillary to prevent her from going to prison. This will ensure that Hillary will never gain access to any position of power, will bring to justice those who committed criminal acts, and offers an olive branch to the opposition to try to bring some unity back to the political landscape.

    The items that concern me most are:

    1) That our enemies are currently holding onto blackmail items they intended to use against Hillary to influence her.
    2) That some people paid a LOT of money to gain influence with her, who are now empty-handed.
    3) That actively working to "throw Hillary into a prison cell" will do nothing but to solidify and inflame the disunity, and cause a loss of the House in 2018, and possibly everything in 2020.

    Items 1 and 2 above are solved by prosecuting HRC so that she will never hold a position of power again. And item 3 above is at least mitigated by PARDONING her crimes.
     
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    Sure. We should then do the same thing to Bush/Cheney administration for the horrendous and grotesque war crimes they committed in their little Iraqi sojourn. But no pardon for them. They should be tried domestically and then again at the Hague.
     
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    No, we kicked one out!!!

    More so than any other politician. Only time will tell!

    Just not republicans in 2016!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. truth and justice

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    And what would your feelings be when he doesn't?
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF does this have to do with the topic? If deflection and distraction is all you have, it's a waste of time (yours and mine) for you to have responded.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you put one in.

    Trump lies over one year 10/1/15 to 10/1/16


    “Our African-American communities are absolutely in the worst shape they've ever been in before. Ever. Ever. Ever."

    Says a tweet he sent out "wasn’t saying, ‘check out a sex tape.’ It was just ‘take a look at" the background of Alicia Machado.

    "I finished" the controversy about where President Barack Obama was born.

    “My opponent has no child care plan."

    Says Hillary Clinton has "not answered a single question" about her immigration plan.

    The number of illegal immigrants "could be 3 million. It could be 30 million."
    Donald Trump is wrong that 'inner-city crime is reaching record levels'

    Says the U.S. election system is "rigged."

    Says Barack Obama "founded ISIS. I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton."

    "Hillary Clinton says she wants to, ‘raise taxes on the middle class.’ "

    "I’m beating (Kelly Ayotte) in the polls by a lot."

    "We have a fire marshal that said, 'Oh we can't allow more people’ ... And the reason they won't let them in is because they don't know what the hell they're doing."

    On gift taking, "Bob McDonnell took a fraction of what (Tim) Kaine took."

    Says Ted Cruz "never denied" his father was photographed with Lee Harvey Oswald.

    "We don't know anything about Hillary in terms of religion. Now, she's been in the public eye for years and years, and yet there's no — there's nothing out there."

    Says Hillary Clinton "has even deleted this record of total support (for the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement) from her book."

    "For the amount of money Hillary Clinton would like to spend on refugees, we could rebuild every inner city in America."

    "The Obama administration was actively supporting Al Qaeda in Iraq, the terrorist group that became the Islamic State."

    "Crime is rising."

    "I wanted to keep it private, because I don't think it's anybody's business if I want to send money to the vets."

    It "is Hillary Clinton's agenda" to "release the violent criminals from jail. She wants them all released."

    "Look, we are at war with these people and they don't wear uniforms. … This is a war against people that are vicious, violent people, that we have no idea who they are, where they come from. We are allowing tens of thousands of them into our country now."

    Says Ted Cruz’s father "was with Lee Harvey Oswald" before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

    "Frankly, (Hillary Clinton) doesn’t do very well with women."

    The 2016 federal omnibus spending bill "funds illegal immigrants coming in and through your border, right through Phoenix."

    Says that when Michelle Fields "found out that there was a security camera, and that they had her on tape, all of a sudden that story changed."

    "Out of 67 counties (in Florida), I won 66, which is unprecedented. It's never happened before."

    "I don't know anything about David Duke."

    Says Ted Cruz "said I was in favor in Libya. I never discussed that subject."

    Says that in the Philippines more than a century ago, Gen. John Pershing "took 50 bullets, and he dipped them in pigs’ blood," and shot 49 Muslim rebels. "The 50th person, he said, ‘You go back to your people, and you tell them what happened.’ And for 25 years, there wasn’t a problem."

    "Don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 percent unemployment. The number's probably 28, 29, as high as 35. In fact, I even heard recently 42 percent."

    A Trump television ad shows Mexicans swarming over "our southern border."

    President Barack Obama "wants to take in 250,000 (people) from Syria."

    Says crime statistics show blacks kill 81 percent of white homicide victims.

    "I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.

    The federal government is sending refugees to states with governors who are "Republicans, not to the Democrats."

    The Trans-Pacific Partnership "was designed for China to come in, as they always do, through the back door and totally take advantage of everyone."

    "I never said that" Marco Rubio was Mark Zuckerberg’s personal senator.

    Says Bernie Sanders is going to "tax you people at 90 percent."


    All in the year from Oct 1, 2015 though Oct 1, 2016, all:

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    Says to Hillary Clinton, "You heard what I said about (the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal), and all of a sudden you were against it."

    "NATO is opening up a major terror division. ... I'm sure I'm not going to get credit for it, but that was largely because of what I was saying and my criticism of NATO."

    Says "Hillary Clinton's plan would bring in 620,000 refugees in her first term, alone, with no effective way to screen or vet them. Her plan would cost $400 billion in terms of lifetime welfare and entitlement costs."

    Says Hillary Clinton’s energy agenda "will cost the U.S. economy over $5 trillion"

    Says top Clinton advisers "were pressing" birther movement stories "very hard."

    "I did not support the war in Iraq … The record shows that I’m right."

    "You will learn more about Donald Trump by going down to the Federal Elections" to see the financial disclosure form than by looking at tax returns.

    "I never said" that Muslims would be subject to profiling under his policies.

    "Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy."

    "Our veterans, in many cases, are being treated worse than illegal immigrants."

    "I was totally against the war in Iraq."

    "I released the most extensive financial review of anybody in the history of politics. … You don't learn much in a tax return."

    As governor, Tim Kaine "oversaw a huge increase in illegal immigration, a tremendous increase."

    Says Hillary Clinton "wants to raise taxes on African-American owned businesses to as much as nearly 50 percent more than they're paying now."

    Says Hillary Clinton is "proposing to print instant work permits for millions of illegal immigrants to come in and take everybody's jobs, including low-income African-Americans."

    "I had previously said that NATO was obsolete because it failed to deal adequately with terrorism. Since my comments, they have changed their policy and now have a new division focused on terror threats."

    "The Obama-Clinton war on coal has cost Michigan over 50,000 jobs."

    Says he saw videotape "of the people taking the money off the plane" to pay ransom to Iran for hostages.

    "Youth unemployment is through the roof."

    "An analysis showed that Bernie Sanders would have won the Democratic nomination if it were not for the Super Delegates."

    Says Hillary Clinton "wants to essentially abolish the Second Amendment."

    "Hillary Clinton invented ISIS with her stupid policies. She is responsible for ISIS."

    Says as GOP was picking a convention city, "I recommended Ohio."

    "Just look at what the FBI director said about her (Hillary Clinton) — her misconduct is a disgrace and embarrassment to our country."

    "As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton laundered money to Bill Clinton through Laureate Education, while Bill Clinton was an honorary chairman of the group."

    Says Hillary Clinton "filibustered legislation to reform" Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    Says Hillary Clinton’s immigration platform would "create totally open borders."

    The Benghazi victims were "left helpless to die as Hillary Clinton soundly slept in her bed."

    "Because of Obamacare, you have so many part-time jobs."

    "I was among the earliest to criticize the rush to war (in Iraq), and yes, even before the war ever started."

    Even among "second and third generation" Muslims in the United States, "there's no real assimilation."

    There is "no system to vet" refugees from the Middle East.

    We’ve broken "by millions" the all-time record for votes in a GOP presidential primary election.

    "There are places in America that are among the most dangerous in the world. You go to places like Oakland. Or Ferguson. The crime numbers are worse. Seriously."

    Says Hillary Clinton "wants to abolish the Second Amendment."

    "You have to be a citizen to vote," but with same-day voter registration, "you have places where people just walk in and vote."

    "We're the highest taxed nation in the world."

    "In the history of Republican primaries, I’ve gotten the most votes in the history of the Republican party."

    ISIS is making millions of dollars a week selling Libyan oil."

    "I was totally against the war in Iraq, saying for many years that it would destabilize the Middle East."

    The Colorado caucus system for selecting Republican delegates is "rigged."

    Says Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio "had it set so that the winner takes everything, because they wanted to make sure that I didn't get anything" in the Florida primary.

    "My numbers are better right now than Ronald Reagan's numbers were with Jimmy Carter."

    Says Ted Cruz distributed the ad showing a nude Melania Trump on a rug.

    Wisconsin’s "effective" unemployment rate is 20 percent.

    "When those restrictions expire (in the Iran nuclear deal), Iran will have an industrial-size military nuclear capability ready to go."

    The Trump Winery near Charlottesville, Va. is the "largest winery on the East Coast."

    Under the Iran nuclear deal, "we give them $150 billion, we get nothing."

    Says the man who rushed the stage at him in Dayton, Ohio, "had chatter about ISIS, or with ISIS" in his social media posts.

    "GDP was zero essentially for the last two quarters."

    Common Core is "education through Washington D.C."

    The wives of the 9/11 hijackers "knew exactly what was happening" and went back to Saudi Arabia two days before the attacks to watch their husbands on television flying the planes.

    Says Mahatma Gandhi once said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

    Says "the New York Times can write a story that they know is false" yet "they can't basically be sued."

    "We (Trump University) have an ‘A’ from the Better Business Bureau."

    When Mitt Romney chose Paul Ryan as his vice-presidential running mate, "that was the end" of Romney’s chances to win.

    "If it weren’t for me … (illegal immigration) wouldn’t even be a big subject."

    "Right now we’re the highest taxed country in the world."

    "I never once asked that (Megyn Kelly) be removed" as a debate moderator.

    Says Mexico can afford to build a wall because the country's trade deficit with America is billions of dollars.

    Among Syrian refugees and migrants coming into Europe, "there look like very few women. Very few children."

    The five Guantanamo detainees swapped for Bowe Bergdahl are "back on the battlefield."

    Canadian-born Ted Cruz "has had a double passport."

    The 9/11 terrorists' friends, family, girlfriends in the United States "were sent back for the most part to Saudi Arabia. They knew what was going on. They went home, and they wanted to watch their boyfriends on television."

    Says his plan would cut taxes without increasing the deficit.

    Says Ohio Gov. John Kasich "got lucky with a thing called fracking," which "is why Ohio is doing well."

    "Sixty-one percent of our bridges are in trouble."

    Says CIA Director George Tenet told the Bush administration that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attack "was coming. So they did have advanced notice."

    "We have the highest tax rate anywhere in the world."

    Among Syrian refugees, "there aren't that many women, there aren't that many children."

    "The birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton in 2008. She was all in!"

    Says Mexico doesn't have birthright citizenship, and Americans are the "only ones" to have it.

    Under the Iran deal: "If Israel attacks Iran … we’re supposed to be on Iran’s side."

    "We have 93 million people out of work. They look for jobs, they give up, and all of a sudden, statistically, they're considered employed."

    "We’re the most highly taxed nation in the world."

    "Some of the things that (Megyn Kelly) said, I didn’t say."

    Illegal immigration "wasn’t a subject that was on anybody’s mind until I brought it up at my announcement."

    Under President Barack Obama, income levels and unemployment numbers "are worse now than just about ever" for African-Americans.


    All in the year from Oct 1, 2015 to Oct 1, 2016, all:

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    Sorry.

    The "establishment elites" you thought you were voting out have Congress; and the wall street m/billionaire elites are celebrating the victory you gave them by putting one of their own in the WH who will give them massive tax cuts; Putin and Russian are celebrating how easily they manipulated the gullible Americans into selecting their candidate, and Trump is loading up his government with big money lobbyists and Washington insiders.

    Face it. You've been duped and conned by a charlatan.
     
  20. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    Good, this will bring their companies back in America!!!

    If that is the list of lies from Trump, perhaps you should do the list for Hillary!!! Of course it might take you a lifetime.

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    You mean like Obama did to his supporters, and every other president ever.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    I asked will you feel lied to. You wrote in the OP "One of the major reasons why Trump was voted on, was for saying he would prosecute Hillary.", so will you feel lied to?
     
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    Yes and Comey caved twice because of political pressure! There is a reason why the rank & file at the FBI are up in arms! If you truly believe Hillary is innocent of any wrong doing, then you should welcome and impartial investigation and review of the facts!
     
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    I think that he is watching to see what the exiting pardoner-in-chief Obama will do...not tipping his hand as it were!!
     
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    I agree she is guilt as sin, but like I said what would prosecution do? With all the evidence classified documents on her hard drive and obvious pay for play, most of the country does not give a s***. The Democratic party simply does not care how guilt one of their own is. Do we really want to was political capital on this? The lines are draw on the people on each side will simply not change any of their minds. Let's work on getting the Supreme Court back to constitutionalist, let's get immigration laws enforced, let's start moving this country forward.
     
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    Please list war crimes that were committed.
     

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