If you oppose the Muslim Ban, then tell us a BETTER way to stop Islamic terrorism.

And how exactly do you convince someone to stop being a terrorist?

 

Just over 100 non-Americans out of over 300,000 are delayed at airports, and the left and Democratic Party goes fully hysterical. Of course, the Democratic Party's solution to terrorism is to bring them to the USA because if we don't they will be angry at us for not being able to kill us - and we can't have that. That is how absurd the Democratic Party's position is.

Iran has now banned Americans traveling to Iran. In Democratic Party logic, now millions and millions of Americans hate and want to kill Iranians because of it. It is that absurd.

 

Saudi Arabia has been pushing Wahabbism for decades. Bin Laden was a Saudi national, and so were most of the 9/11 hijackers. The shooters wife in San Bernadino came from.....Saudi Arabia. Those fundamentalist qurans handed out in American and European prisons? Funded by the Saudi's. Obama vetoed our rights as citizens to sue them over their ROLE in 9/11.

Not Iran, Iraq, or Syria. Saudi Arabia is the enemy of the secular west.

 

Jesus is far far worse than Mohammad was because the roughly 70 billion non-believers in history are, because the all-powerful Jesus is too morally warped to change this scheme, going to not just have a quick death (like Mohammad did when he chopped the heads off of 600+ captives at Banu Qurayza), but are going to suffer much much more than that by being burned alive in a "lake of fire". Mohammad only hurt a minor fraction of the people that "Jesus" will allegedly hurt (if we believe the immoral Bible, that is.)

I'd RATHER suffer Mohammad's punishment, and also Hitler's punishment (dying reasonably quickly in a gas chamber in a concentration camp) than suffer Jesus' barbaric in-human penalty....for just not believing that his magic is real. Gandhi: tortured. Ben Franklin: tortured. Einstein: tortured. Freedomseeker: tortured. Your mother if she dares to think for herself and become, say, a Buddhist: torture....all thanks to the "loving, caring" Jesus.

"Jesus" is a monster.

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Too bad Trump has properties there or Saudi Arabia could be added to the list.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...move-to-north-america/?utm_term=.555a94d78e40

 

Exactly, he isn't taking the threat seriously, only giving red meat to his base.

 

If I knew how to that, I would obviously share it. How do I convince someone they are being irrational?

 

There is some belief among Muslims that "only ALLAH can call a Muslim to Jihad", so turning a fellow Muslim in to the Infidel authorities, when Allah himself called them to Jihad, might put this "snitches" ability to rape the 72 virgins in Paradise that Allah promised them in jeopardy. So we obviously can't count on Muslims to really help us out in defeating their god's most loved people (Jihadists who are fighting to implement said god's divine laws.)

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Oh, so what religion are 90%+ of the people who live in those 7 countries?

 

Shoot em.

 

Discredit the faith that drives them to be terrorists.

 

Correct. About 90% of the Muslim world is not impacted by the ban.

 

That's entirely dependent on who you're talking to as well as if their mind is already made up.

 

Show them that their "prophet" is probably not really a "prophet".

 

Sorry, I can't help you with that.

 

Not YET. But he's only been in office like 9 days.

 

That works if you're armed, trained and know exactly how many are around you.

All under the assumption they're not too far gone.

 

The ban isn't permanent ( except Syria). Could be he is just sending a message to create better boarder security.
I don't Trust Trump though, what if this is mostly to keep Americans emotionally diverted on "equality" while they are doing real damage behind the scenes. Health insurance, social security ect...

... idk.

 

That would work about as well as telling a Christian the reality of Jesus.

 

It's been clear to me for a while that you know very little about Islam, and that your critical threads on Islam are only subterfuges for your anti-Christian posts. You criticize Islam simply to look unbiased, but your real beef is with Christianity. That's why you deflect away from Islam in your own threads about Islam whenever someone like me makes an anti-Islam post.

Your mask is starting to slip.

You realize in Islam there is also a hell, right? And the description of hell in the Qur'an is arguably far worse than it is in the Bible.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/says_about/hell.html

 

I'm now convinced that you don't have the slightest idea the evils that Mohammad committed. So please tell us the very worst few things that Mohammad did.

 

Yeah, I didn't think you could back up that argument. Thanks for confirming.

 

So you, like me, obviously condemn their god for being so barbaric, right?

 

Unfortunately followers of both religions are delusional - so our work is really cut out for us.

 

Reality is whatever you WANT it to be for your anti-Christian ideology, isn't it?

Muslims do believe in Hell. In Arabic it called Jahannam (جهنّ&#1605. Other terms used to describe it are The Fire (النا&#1585 and The Pit of Blazing Fire (الجحي&#1605. The vast majority of Muslim scholars would say it is a fundamental aspect of belief -- it is considered part of belief in the Day of Judgement, and believing in the Day of Judgement is one of the Six Pillars of Faith.

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Unlikely. His messages seem to indicate complete disinterest in actual facts and rather are mostly just reciting DNC doctrine. In his view, the Orlando shooting of over 100 at an LGTB nightclub last year is offset by a Christian attack 1000 years ago.

Basically, everything is justifiable because someone else did it before sometime in history. I've never heard of that defense being presented in court, however. Maybe he should suggest it. A man on trial for murdering and raping a woman - and the defense proves that in 1923 a woman participated in the sexual mutilation and murder of a man - therefore it is balanced out and the jury can not rightly convict that man.

 

The REASON I bring up both Christianity and Islam alot is because both are equally as bad, and I just want to be fair. I'm constantly getting people (Kode, in this very thread, for example!) bashing Christianity in a reply to me, so I like to pro-actively show them that I'm a fair person. I'm not bigoted towards one illogical belief system over another belief system. Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. are also pretty much equally illogical, for the record.

I do love Muslims (and Christians of course), but I am NOT a fan of much of the Islamic texts. You and I feel almost exactly the same way towards, Islam, Brew. We disagree on The Bible, though. But keep in mind that the Bible has just as much of a court-room level of evidence for it's wild/unscientific claims as the Qur'an does - zilch.