Illegal Immigrants... What should be done?

Can we make it retroactive?.....so we can kick Michelle Malkin out and back to the Phillipines???

 

The answer two both questions is no, it is illegal in both cases. I will agree that both the middle and higher class benefit to some extent. I grew up in a large city that is about 20% illegals. They are mostly nice hardworking people I like and respect many of them. While the reason you give would be why we should allow more legal immigration. I disagree that we should just turn a blind eye at the expense of our legal lower class. If you think it does no harm to our society go to a emergency room in Dallas I have seen people with knife and gunshot wounds wait hours for treatment. They will still receive free care while Americans are forced to purchase insurance. They are mistreated and exposed to unsafe working conditions and can not report it since they are here illegal. Try to support a family roofing,framing,painting,doing drywall, or concrete work those used to be decent trades. If you are opposed to the
minimum wage or safety laws then advocate repeal for everyone. Allowing a new form of indentured servitude by undocumented workers at the expense of the poor. Americans that are being squeezed both from this and their jobs being outsourced is unacceptable to me. While legal immigrants may be highly skilled most illegals are not. They compete with the poor that have a legal right to be here.

I am not conservative at least by American standards, the fact I did not suggest the "great wall of North America" or to shoot them on site should give that away. I can agree with amnesty if earned. Most large cities would suffer tremdously if 20% of their population were to be deported. While I will admit nothing will change that does not mean that is the proper course. If they are to remain they should be treated the same as American, with the same obligations and protections. Anything else is unfair to everyone but their criminal employers. How is the immigration policy in your country? Do y'all allow anybody to come there to work?

 

so then, every american that steals should be off the hook. as long as the money/stuff they stole goes towards feeding their family. ridiculous...

 

they broke the law to be there in the first place. and when they are here they take jobs away from legal american citizens. its stealing jobs that would have gone to legal law abiding american citizens otherwise. so yeah it is stealing, no they arent entitled to it. but if the illegals were not there the job would undoubtedly 100% be going towards a legal american

 

Yeah.....you see citizens every day who line up every day to go pick cabbages and oranges, only to have the job taken away from them.

 

If there were no illegals, those jobs would still need to be filled. Employers would have to make them more attractive. Prices will go up, but I am willing to accept that to have Americans working, and not illegals.

 

It makes it understandable and I can not hold that against them. I blame the American employers for giving them the jobs. Not the poor people that seek to better their lives. Does not make it legal but as I said if role were reversed I would do the same thing.

 

Food quadruples in price....but you're "willing to accept that" to "get rid of the illegals?

 

RTL wants to shoot them as they cross the border.....even pregnant women. (RTL is "pro-life" you see)

 

That is a hypocritical position for him to take. The people are just trying to make a better life for themselves, I can not blame them and surely could not physically harm them for that.

 

i find it strange that you take a foreign invasion to our country so lightly. and just to let you know, all illegals arent the lil' timmy type poor. so stop painting them as such

 

you wanna talk hypocritical? look at yourself. amnesty for illegals, but no amnesty for the rest of the american population? its okay that illegals commit crimes to help make a better lives for themselves, but you dont extend that to all americans? seriously youre all over the place. you got no right to call me hypocritical

 

They broke the law?!?! Omgggggg we're trying to determine the content of the law, can't you see that simply referring to the law is completely circular logic?

Show me proof that immigrants as an entire group perform some sort of inherent coercion and I'll swap to your side right now.

 

Food prices are already on the rise, but show me where they would quadruple?

 

I didn't say it was logical...or even sane. I just cited what RTL has stated.

 

YOU noted prices would rise....give me YOUR multiplier, if suddenly there was a huge labor shortage in agriculture.

 

What is our unemployment rate? People are looking for jobs.

 

If you are Pro-life but would kill a pregnant women which would kill both a mother and unborn child what else could I call it? That was the most PC way I could say it. I would give amnesty for some Americans all non-violent drug offenders should be pardoned, and the war on drugs should end. As I said I would support a path for undocumented workers to earn amnesty. You do not understand the shear number that occupy the major cities in the border states. If they all were deported the change would be drastic and not for the better. If they were paid the same as Americans and protected by the same laws there would be far less demand for their services. The real criminals are the companies that hire them to expand profits at the expense of poor Americans. If that makes me a hypocrite then I can live with that.

 

you point is kind of hard to find here. what is it about our immigration laws that you cannot comprehend? Its illegal to enter the USA without going through the proper channels----visa, green card, passport, etc. why should we ignore those laws?

 

Not my question. If, as was admitted, food prices will go up due to a labor shortage.....give me the multiplier for how MUCH they'll go up.

 

But SOME of them would be pregnant women.....who you'd want SHOT TO DEATH along with their "unborn innocnet life", right?

You've said it once....you going to backpedal now?

 

yeah. if they are caught in the act of invading our country that should be shot. wonder how many illegals would want to come over if we had that as our border policy.

its extremely unfortunate that the innocent child would have to die because of the mother's idiotic actions. just because a woman is pregnant, it doesnt grant her immunity against appropriate reaction. if a pregnant woman goes into a mall and starts shooting everyone, then obviously I wouldnt hesitate to shoot her. It's unfortunate how the child has to suffer for the woman's crazy actions. anyways the only person who would be at fault in this situation would be the mother. she leaves our border officers no choice. she should never be putting her kids at risk like this anyway.

 

I selected the "different position - I'll explain" option because they cannot all be deported. Amnesty to all will only exacerbate the problem, i.e., what Ronald Reagan did, what some state and local governments are doing. I honestly do not know what to do about the situation right now but I am sure that something will come t me at a later time.

One thing that could be done is to make it harder for those who come here through other than legal and accepted channels is to encourage the governments from whence they come to aid in alleviating the problem by reducing or altogether eliminating the "Monroe Doctrine" and all vestiges attached to said policy and course of action.

 

Anders,
Your actions would include Bobby Jindal of Louisiana.

 

Shoot them on sight? How would a person be able to tell a U.S. citizen of Mexican decent from one who did not come here through legal means? The answer to this is, YOU CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE. What you are advocating through your reactionary approach is murder which is not a good or positive thing AT ALL.