Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

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  1. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Let's see if the courts agree with that assessment.
     
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    Well if only you read my first post LOL. And here is my first post just for you:

    I saw a video yesterday of Rittenhouse looking like he was surrendering to officers. The officers would have known that shots were fired and people were hit yet we see him walking pass officers armed with a gun. I'm quite sure that if he was black he would have been apprehended by the officers.

    So do you have anything to say on my first post about the police ignoring an armed surrendering white man but no doubt would have arrested on the spot that surrendering man if he was black?
     
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    How were the cops supposed to know he was underaged? It's not like he was wearing a neon sign to that effect. Also, is it legal to open carry a rifle in this State? (Not a rhetorical question, one I'd like to know the answer to, but don't currently.)
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Some people are comparing him and his type to the Minutemen at Lexington and Concord

    Post 134, this thread
     
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    twice as many white people are shot by police then blacks people so yeah if a black guy did the exact same thing and called the police to turn himself in then yes he would be alive..

    People who get shot by police (other then a very small few) have 2 things in common

    1) they are criminals
    2) they are fighting with police

    Dont do those 2 things and you're good to go..
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Well some people compare Field Marshall von Bonespurs to a real president so I am not surprised.
     
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    Where? According to what law?
     
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    I didn't see that from the video. And I didn't see any terrorism either. I would say that your claim is his only defense. He went out, armed to take the law into his own hands, and then did so in some form. That's not self defense. He had no obligation or right to be defending anything. He went LOOKING for trouble, found it, and killed someone. I mean, if an armed black person went into the streets to stop white supremacy, engaged in a conflict, and then shot the white supremacist who was out protesting whatever it is they protest, would you call that self defense?
     
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    Worlds worst white supremacist goes to BLM riot and shoots 3 white men.
     
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    I'm no lawyer, but under the age of 18 in Wisconsin, one can only possess a firearm for hunting, target practicing, or instruction. I don't think he was engaged in any of those activities when he got the gun and headed out that night.
     
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    I do. Lots of examples, from the video surrounding this event. Your what if just went up in smoke....
     
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    Not what post # 134 says.
     
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    Wisconsin law is 18 to carry.

    So they should slap the little scofflaw's pee pee for that.
     
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    I .. uh.. yes.. and he had his hands up .. and the rest of that is displaying bigotry towards police officers, based.. worst of all.. on a false premise , which is then taught to your AA youth and contributes to their resisting arrest and being possibly harmed in that process.
     
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    You left out:
    3) Don't be African-American.
     
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    Feel free to cite the actual law.
     
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    So not like this.

     
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    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Nothing I said is based on a false premise. African-American parents are remiss if they don't have "the talk" with their children about police. It can be the difference between life and death.
     
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    So he went looking for trouble.

    Hmmmm, so what parent let's their kid cross state lines with guns to a city where their is civil unrest.

    Explain that UA.
     
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    Done.

    https://lawcenter.giffords.org/minimum-age-to-purchase-possess-in-wisconsin/

     
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    Who knew. Seems his self defense case is still valid, and there are other variables in state law that do allow under 18 to carry. At the most this is a misdemeanor charge though. What is the charge for throwing an incendiary at the kid? What is the charge for assaulting with a lethal skateboard... All interesting questions of the law. I think many folks are going to see the restraint and the cooperative nature of Rittenhouse and judge appropriately come verdict day.
     
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    Post 134 says:

    "The militia at Lexington and Concord were comprised of males 16 and older. At 17 one can join the US military."

    And since every text I've ever read on the ARW says those Militia were also Minutemen it sure as hell sounds like a comparison to me
     
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    They should start including not breaking the law, resisting arrest, and violent behavior into the talks.
     
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    How many times have you sent your kid across state lines with loaded guns?

    He went looking for trouble and found it.
     
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    Its a free country and he has every right to be there, and he has every right TO DEFEND HIMSELF

    Do you mean if the Black guy was running away as the White supremacist threw a Molotov cocktail at him he gets cornered and the white supremacist charges him and he then shoots him..
    then calls the cops..

    then gets chased by a mob falls down..

    Guy tries to curb stomp him.. he gets hit in the head with a skateboard (shoots that guy) and another guy runs up with a pistol out in his face.. (shoots him as well)?

    So yes in that scenario that would ALSO be self defense.

    And the best part about you trying to switch the scenario here is the "white supremacists" in this situation WOULD BE BLACK GUYS, the only white "white supremacist" would be the guy that attempted to curb stomp him and didnt get shot.

    The fact that your trying to make this about race is just ridiculous..
     
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