Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

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  1. Gdawg007

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    Nothing like this.

    The man in the video who did the shooting was simply carrying a firearm within the confines of the law. He came upon a violent scene. He offered assistance. The officer requested it. Then he shot the suspect. Notice his reaction after? He wasn't pleased with what he had done. He didn't go looking for trouble either. This is an example of proper and reluctant use of lethal force by a citizen.

    So far, no one has shown anything identical to this occurred in this shooting. We have a 17 year old who took it upon himself to be a so called "police officer." And then he killed someone.
     
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    How do you know they don't? Amazing how white kids can do all of the above and they don't catch a bullet for it.
     
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    This might be a good point if you ignore the fact that twice as many white people are shot by police vs black people..

    Doesnt matter the race.. dont be a criminal and dont fight with police..

    your welcome
     
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    I would suggest you look into this group. This guy is the real deal teaching blacks how to handle guns. get permits, how to legally carry and respond to the police rather than immediately start a confrontation with them.

     
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    Which he now has the burden to prove. The video doesn't show who attacked whom.

    But take a step back. He's a 17 year old kid out at night after a legally enforceable curfew carrying a weapon against state law. He did so with the motive of NOT protecting himself, but putting himself in harms way to defend...what exactly? Not himself. He went looking for trouble, found it, and shot someone. That's not the same as your or me walking down the street, being attacked randomly for no reason, and then killing our attacker. He KNEW there was a high likelihood of danger AND he prepared for it. That's intent to do harm, or at least, a good prosecutor can prove it in a court of law.



    I'm just saying, if you don't like what the protesters are saying, that's fine. But just because you don't like what they are saying doesn't mean you go out armed to "confront" them or "defend public property" or whatever it is. I don't like white supremacists, but I don't go buy an AR-15 and run around at night pretending to be Batman and defending stuff from them. I just say, man those guys are jerks. See the difference? You don't like what the black protesters are saying, so you are defending someone who took at least two illegal actions which results in the protesters death. The protesters took no action that resulted in anyone's death. So your guy is more in the wrong here. Violating curfew and destroying public property doesn't warrant a death sentence. So defending it as a citizen with a gun you can't carry after hours you can't be legally out is a big problem. Both sides might be wrong, the shooter is more wrong.

    Why is it so hard for you guys to concede that people protesting for things you don't like shouldn't be treated unlawfully? I wouldn't call for the gunning down of Nazi's in the streets, nor would I defend someone who did exactly what this kid did. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean they got what they deserved.
     
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    Can you source that?
     
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    More important for African-American parents to teach their children:
    1) Know how to conduct yourself in interactions with the police.
    2) Don't take racism personally. You will meet racist people, but never let their ignorance define who you are.
    3) Stay alert at all times. Remember that there are some people who don't have your best interest at heart.
    As for the things you suggested African-American kids learn, I could be snarky and say you should teach White kids not to shoot up schools, movie houses, shopping centers, night clubs, etc.
    But, I'm not snarky. :disbelief:
     
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    That’s your opinion that ultimately doesn’t matter. He is legally allowed to be there and legally allowed to defend himself. These idiot terrorist attacked him and paid the price.

    he should walk
     
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    Didn’t happen

    he defended himself against blm and antifa terrorists as a reasonable non radical
     
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    Yes it's less important than violently resisting the police and/or committing illegal acts.

    Sounds like genius parents.

    Damn white kids:

     
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    Which posters were those?
     
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    You aren’t paying attention then. They attacked him and paid the price. They are terrorists who will never terrorize again, that is their fault.
     
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    If they are reasonable they will
     
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    Watch pretty much any video where a black man gets shot and you'll see.

    Wonder why "racist cops" aren't out shooting black women.

    Seems they'd be much easier targets.
     
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    Heh, in 2020 Woke-merika, his real crime was using the N-word.
     
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    Maybe you missed the part where people are throwing firebombs, dropkicks, skateboards, and pulling guns on him.
     
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    So, a 17 year old kid is allowed to carry a long gun that he doesn't even own in public? He obviously isn't the owner of the gun, because 17 year olds can't buy guns.
    He was wrong. I think he is looking at a long prison sentence for killing 2 people and wounding another.
     
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    I didn't claim he was an all American boy, but you are pretty generous in accusing people of racism without the slightest shred of evidence. I just asked if you could source your racism and charge and conclude that you just made it up,
     
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    yes.. I gave my kids "the talk" it goes like this answer no sir or yes sir, do not consent to a search, however follow the officers instructions.. and do nothing that might be threatening' . that talk?

    Personally, I am a big guy and I know that some of the cops who have handled me were scared s### less, I was glad when they'd finally get the cuffs on me and relax a bit.
     
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    5 foot tall female cops are the scariest thing to run across in nature.
     
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    Yup, he broke the law, and they should prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law for the piddling misdemeanor crimes he committed.
     
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    Statistically more likely to be involved in a shooting too.
     
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    I'd say your analysis is pretty slim on facts and where you assert any, they are unknowable to you. You suggest he "went looking for" which clearly he did not. He responded to a call for help, he responded. The facts indicate that folks who participated in the "peaceful rally" created an altercation from which Rittnenhouse ran AWAY from. He was then attacked with an incendiary device by the first man who attacked him, which he shot. He then calls 911, reports the incident. While in the process of reporting the incident, other members of said "peaceful protest" launch a second attack against Rittenhouse. Again, why? He was literally calling the incident in to the police at the time. Why was it necessary for the "peaceful protest participants" to then attack the kid? He again runs away from conflict, trips, and is then assaulted several times while he's on the ground, ending up shooting the one who blindside attacked him hitting him in the head with a skateboard, he remains on the ground, points the weapon at the third person, who stops. Rittenhouse then lowers the weapon to have the same guy then attempt to assault him who is then shot. These are the facts.

    You seem to think that the guys shouting explicatives and racist slurs that attacked the kid are innocent of their assaults and their intent to, as recorded "kill him"? Do you not expect that the kid had every indicator that his life was, in fact, in danger? i do. I'd say reasonable folks would.

    So at least get your narrative correct, before attempting to slur this kid. He killed two and injured one. Both of which were felons and had records of violence. Why not share your thoughts on folks like that being an ACTIVE part of the "peaceful protest"? Why not? Why is it that you seem to support these ANTIFA thugs?
     
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    That’s not true at all, you have simply unreasonably convinced yourself of that
     
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    And yet, they do? At least twice as often as their black counterparts who comparatively commit a higher percentage of these kinds of crimes.
     

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