I'm no stock expert, but DJT goin' down, eh?

It's up more than double YTD. What that you are holding this year is up 2.34 times?



And Trump's Palm Beach Fundraiser Rakes in Record $50.5 Million. So, he's doing pretty well.

 

What a beautiful thing to see.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/DJT...6ImNoYXJ0IiwicGFuZWxOYW1lIjoiY2hhcnQifX19fQ--

 

Yeah, the hedge fund billionaires are paying Trump back at $800k a pop at that dinner for tax cut that saved them many more millions. We know whom he is fighting for, and it most certainly is not the little guy.

 

We know that Bribed Joe hates us.

TWO CRISES BY DESIGN: Illegal Immigrant on Terror Watch List Released by Border Patrol, Spends a Year in the U.S.

Trump's doing fine. Look at the polling in the States that will decide the election:

 

Abortion bill initiatives are in a number of the states on November which will pull a lot of democrats to the polls.So I wouldn't be too rosy about those Polls.

Also there is a strong likelihood Trump will be convicted of a felony of whom a substantial number of republicans said they would not vote for Trump if convicted.

So those polls don't mean squat.We shall see what the landscape looks like in November and it might not be as pretty as you are painting it.

 

And yet, here you are.

 

Non sequitur

I gave a reason why the polls might not have meaning.

You failed to rebutt my points.

 

You refuted your own point.

Bribed Joe is 8 points behind last cycle.

 

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

 

You're just repeating yourself.

Now, i must repeat, I gave you several reasons why your stats could easily be meaningless.

You have FAILED to rebut those points.

 

Seems like Biden v Trump probably already does that.

Yeah, but Biden has five more months of uncontrolled immigration and an economy that benefits that rich while ordinary people struggle to survive.

Nor does your desperation non sequiturs carry much weight.

 

Your sources are disreputable, your arguments are unfounded, you are dismissed.

 

Nice cop out.

You're not interested in debate so I shall put you on ignore.

 

I don't think you grasped the effects of Trump's tax cuts. Or that if he gets reelected he may be able to save them from Greedy Dems/

 

There's no reason to invest in this unless you are just wanting to flip it and screw over someone else. There's no realistic plan for growth or market capture. And it's deep in the red. You can deal with one or the other, but both is a recipe for disaster.

 

I"m all for a tax cut to the middle class, as the middle class spending has the greatest effect on job growth more than any other sector in the economy.

the debate is on whether there is a overall benefit to the economy giving tax cuts to the wealthy who don't need it, or whose personal spending habits will not increase (thus contributing to job growth). The argument that it spurs economic development doesn't hold water because if there is an increased demand, regardless of a tax cut, businesses will find the capital to invest in inventories, expansion, etc., to meet demand, and, as such, if the tax cut serves only to increase the deficit, which will force the gov to borrow and print money, whatever elusive benefits of tax cuts to those who don't need it are not fully realized in ways that conservatives argue. I know this because of my experience owning and operating retail businesses. But a tax cut to the middle class, this is something democrats will support.

Anyway......

I asked Copilot, at the prompt, a question and I put it without any bias or any 'leading' to the question:

What was the effect of the Trump tax cut of 2017?

It responded, with annotations linking to:

https://www.twincities.com/2024/04/...mp-tax-cuts-were-neither-panacea-nor-rip-off/
https://www.aol.com/trump-era-tax-cuts-set-150023415.html

The 2017 Trump tax law had significant implications, sparking debates and discussions. Let’s delve into its effects:

1. Skewed to the Rich:
   
   • Households in the top 1 percent received an average tax cut of over $60,000 in 2025, while those in the bottom 60 percent saw an average cut of less than $500.
   • Tax cuts for the top earners were disproportionately larger compared to those for lower-income households1.
2. Expensive and Eroded Revenue Base:
   
   • The law was estimated to cost $1.9 trillion over ten years by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) in 2018.
   • Making the law’s temporary individual income and estate tax cuts permanent would add another roughly $350 billion annually starting in 2027.
   • Overall, it eroded the U.S. revenue base, impacting our ability to invest in critical areas like Social Security and health coverage1.
3. Failed Economic Benefits:
   
   • The centerpiece corporate tax rate cut was expected to boost household income by $4,000, but research shows that workers earning less than about $114,000 on average in 2016 saw no change in earnings.
   • Top executive salaries increased significantly, while the promised trickle-down effect did not materialize for workers1.

In summary, the 2017 Trump tax cut was a controversial policy with varying impacts, and its expiration in 2025 will continue to be a topic of debate12.

In my view, the tax cut could have been greatly improved by:

1. Not lowering taxes on the rich
2. Giving a bigger tax cut to the middle class.

Why?

1. Tax cuts on the super rich do not translate to improving the economy like conservatives argue
2. Take the money that would have been saved to the rich, and give a BIGGER tax cut to the middle class because the largest sector of the economy is the middle class and this group has the greatest effect on increasing demand, thus improving the economy. The middle class economy pool is the tide that lifts all boats.


So, What was wrong with Trump's tax cut?

1. Tax cuts on the super rich were not necessary and did nothing to improve the economy
2. It didn't cut taxes to the middle class enough to make a difference in the economy. The benefits were marginal, at best.

 

People blame presidents, Left and Right, for the unstable, bizarre mess that the economy is in, but it's way beyond the power of any one president to cause this. The economy of the Western world was seized by a consortium of central banks in 2008 and they've never released control to return it to the principles of a healthy, prosperous free-market economy.

As far as the actual involvement of presidents go, Trump is as much to blame as "W" Bush, Obama, or Biden for the overvalued time-bombs that the stock markets have turned into. And here in the States, it's been the Federal Reserve combine that's to blame for it all....

"Experts" of one kind or another will tell you all kinds of things, but ONE thing is indisputable: the national debt-versus-GDP is currently 123% and rising! This insanity started in 2008 when the Fed took over total control of everything of any real importance in the economy.... Now! What happens when the U. S. cannot even pay the interest on this bloated, out-of-control national debt? Laugh if you want, but it's a mathematical inevitability.

Link: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp

 

If you do not understand IPO's you should at least look at the financial statements.
With IPO's you are betting on the future. Their past is loss, loss, loss. But then again, so was Apple.
Good luck selling your puts. It is definitely the "Hero -Zero" game!
A Trump win may juice it.
I'm on Truth Social, but I don't find the hook, and it is difficult to use. But money brings talent which brings improvement!

 

We have also lost control of our election security as evidenced by falling turnout. "Why bother?" Replaces "I voted. (And voted, and voted, and voted...)

 

More of more of the total market outlook hinges on speculation, and very little else. I have tried successfully to avoid sophomoric, largely invalid comparisons with the U. S. economy prior to 1929, but that gets harder and harder to avoid the deeper into this disjointed, fantasy-land economic mess we go.

 

The real problem with the market is the system itself. The system is poorly designed, and needs a bottom to top overhaul.

 

They all sold already, they were timed.
New options cost to much so I won’t be buying any more but I am happy with my earnings

What do you think a trump loss would do?


Note that it wasn’t even available for trade until March 25th and anyone that bought it at 70 bucks was even a bigger fool than people previously thought they were.

Very few people that are not already on the trump worship app are going to join it in the future. It’s too toxic and a giant echo chamber.

 

There is no real plan for growth here. Sure, a company like Twitter or Amazon can operate in the red for years, but that's because of market capture. There is no measure by which Truth Social is doing well or even has the potential to do so.

 

Only point worth making is the US Treasury reported that Trump's tax cuts benefited 95% of those that actually pay taxes. The rest of the recycle crap isn't worth debating since you and your cohort have spewed it for years. And now Biden's "build from the bottom up economy" is proving to be doing exactly the opposition; ordinary folks are still struggling paycheck to pay check, CPI has inflated 16% since Biden took over.

Taxing the rich just taxes money out the hands of those that are accomplished at running businesses, developing new products and services and CREATING JOBS. And it keeps money out of the hands of fools like Biden and his horde who've never many a dollar from their own word, had to handle a payroll, or fight off competitors.

And who has benefited? The rich, the shareholders, the Biden cronies.

As far as being skewed - you must have missed the day in school were they taught that 3%. of $1000 dollars is less that 3% of $100,000.

Oh, and those people in the 1% category pay almost 40% of total income tax; collections ARE ALSO SKEWED.

Oh, and Copilot is a biased front for Artificial Fascism.

 

Trump Media shares plunge after company files to issue additional DJT stock

Shares of Trump Media plunged more than 17% in the pre-trading hours Monday after the company filed to issue millions of additional shares of stock.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/15/tru...pany-files-to-issue-additional-djt-stock.html

It's an especially grifty grift by a supreme grifter.