I'm not racist but...

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  1. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever heard a person say "I'm not racist but..." and then they spout off some racist remark thinking that just because the prefaced it with "I'm not racist" makes it not racist. I had a friend once say "I'm not racist but..." those (insert expletive here) Mexicans can't drive worth a (again insert expletive). Now to me what my friend said was a stereotype and racist. In all the years I have know him, that is they only time I have heard such ignorance leave his mouth... which is good, else we would no longer be friends.

    Another example is a woman I dated for a while. Half of her family is Hispanic. And when she talked about her Hispanic side of the family (she is white) she would preface it with "I'm not racist but..." then spew out some racist remark.

    It is amazing how some people can throw out a racist remark that they personally believe in, and think it is not racist all because they preface it with "I'm not racist but...".

    What are your thoughts?
     
  2. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Look, I'm not a racist, but............&%$@&%$@#
     
  3. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    LOL, there's a big difference between spouting off racist remarks and commenting on the reality that exists.

    I think a better measure of whether someone is a racist or not is looking at the demographics where they choose to live. Racists don't live in innercity neighborhoods... they live in the suburbs, mostly in gated communities... where they can sit on their computers and call other people racists.

    What's the demographics where you live? Can you say "I'm not racist, but..." based on facts instead of fiction?

    Zip Code Skinny

    Mine:

    Race
    Hispanic/Latino: 45.8%
    White*: 13.5%
    Black*: 39.5%
    Native American*: 0%
    Asian*: 0.2%
    Hawaiian/Pacific Islander*: 0%
    Other*: 0.1%
    Multiracial*: 0.7%

    P.S. Mexicans don't drive worth a (*)(*)(*)(*). That's not racist, it'a a fact, Jack. ;)
     
  4. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    *crickets chirping*

    What's the problem here? None of you race-embracing liberals want to show us the demographics of your neighborhood? Come on, now... don't you wanna prove how non-racist you really are?
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    LMAO. Smartmouthwoman has nailed in one not only this debate, but the entire debate with liberals.
     
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    On my cul-de-sac, three white families, one Mexican, two black, one mixed family (white/Korean.) That seems pretty much typical of the areas within 25 miles of Ft Lewis/McChord AFB.
     
  7. Smartmouthwoman

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    It's a shame they won't put proof where their mouth is. Esp folks like the OP who seems to have absolutely no problem judging other people's racist tendencies. I'd be willing to bet most live in lily white communities surrounded by those they feel 'comfortable' with.

    Talk is cheap.
     
  8. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    The zip code search makes it easier. Did you enter yours?
     
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    98444. Just down the street a bit from Pacific Lutheran University.
     
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    What matters is the motivation for them saying it.
     
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    I understand where your coming from and what you mean and you would probably be correct most of the time in your summary. HOWEVER that said I do feel it is very possible for some people to spout off what sounds like racist remarks and even may be too and still not be a racist. We all say stupid things at times or caught in a moment of rage or ignorance spout out things we normally would not or do not necessarily believe to be true.
     
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    Race
    Hispanic/Latino: 7.4%
    White*: 60.9%
    Black*: 12.3%
    Native American*: 1%
    Asian*: 9.6%
    Hawaiian/Pacific Islander*: 1.8%
    Other*: 0.3%
    Multiracial*: 6.5%


    Not surprising for your region of the country... and not really relevant unless you're the type to scream RACIST just because somebody says Mexicans can't drive. Then I'd have to pull rank on ya. ;)
     
  13. robini123

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    Really. Just your opinion or you going to back up your claims with proof?

    So what is your point? You saying I am racist? I do not judge people based on race. Where one lives does not make them racist nor is it an accurate indicator of racism. Racism is knows no boundaries.

    Post your source for your stated fact. Keeping in mind that my friend was referring to Mexican drivers living in the U.S.
     
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    I was not stating a fact, only my opinion. Thought that was fairly obvious.
     
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    You don't seem to understand. You accused people of being racist because they say things like "I'm not a racist... but Mexicans can't drive worth a (insert expletive here)." You went on to say it's your opinion his comment was a stereotype and racist.

    My point is... if you don't live around a lot of Mexicans, how do you know your friend's statement isn't true?

    I challenge you to plug your zip code into this handy little site and post the demographics of your neighborhood. If you've got his zip, get his too. It's called judging based on facts, not feelings.

    You game?

    http://zipskinny.com/
     
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    That's a cool link!
     
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    Im thinking that you're doing exactly what you're accusing your target of doing.
     
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    I would say you have not lived in the inner city then. Plenty of racists here, just depends on the neighborhood.
     
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    I agree with you. I have a thread discussing the exact same thing. I can't stand it when people say they are not racist but then state a racist remark after it.
     
  20. robini123

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    I disagree. One of my best friends is 1st generation Mexican American and he drives just fine. So to say all Mexican Americans don't drive worth a (*)(*)(*)(*) is just an opinion and not a fact. IMO it is a racist stereotype and not based in fact.

    I am an American currently living in Canada so your zippy thing will not work with my zip. Anyway I reject your whole hypothesis that "Racists don't live in innercity neighborhoods... they live in the suburbs, mostly in gated communities... where they can sit on their computers and call other people racists. What's the demographics where you live? Can you say "I'm not racist, but..." based on facts instead of fiction?".

    Where a person lives does not make them racist... it is what a person believes that makes them racist. A poor man in the intercity can be just as racist as a man living in a gated community. Again racism knows no boundaries.
     
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    How so? My target being my friend and a woman I use to date... I am not judging them based on race. So where do you see racism in my actions?
     
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    I'm sorry, SMW, I have a lot of time for you, but I do not follow your reasoning here. Are you claiming that the racial demographics of one's home locality defines whether one is racist or otherwise? My home in the UK is in the county of Kent, which is one of the most expensive of the Home Counties. Many of the families surrounding us in the village have been there for centuries, so it is a predominantly Anglo-Saxon population, and the cost of housing precludes many immigrants from moving there. The demographic in our village might be something like 95% Anglo-Saxon. By your definition (as I understand it,) that would make me a card carrying Nazi or Klansman. Do you consider that my posts indicate such an orientation?

    Even more so where my aunt lives in a tiny village in the Blue Mountains of New South Wales. Other than Japanese tourists, there is only one Asian face in the village, and no black ones. Yet my aunt is as racially unbiased as anyone else there. Both the UK and Australia are multicultural societies, but surely the demographics of where one lives has little to do with racial tolerance? :)
     
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    Sorry I missed your thread, but am happy to hear from a like minded person.
     
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    We share the same view here.

    There are many mainly white areas in North America. It would seem silly for a person living in Idaho City (where the racial make up is 92% white) to move as close to a minority as they can just so someone doesn't think that they are racist. Proximity to a minority does not make one non-racist, anymore than living far from a minority makes one racist.
     
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    I happen to live in a gated community that is currently populated with all lily WHITE skin tones. While no one here actually comes out and says it, we do all recognize that we are a segregated community as we do want to stay safe far from the crime that persists in the majority black populated urban settings. Did I mention that my neighbors and I are a highly intelligent group of people.
     

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