Imagining a world without Trumpery.

Then why didn't Bush do it? There were SEALs at Tora Bora and many expressed puzzlement as to why Bush let Osama get away. He later on said that the murderer of over 3000 innocent Americans was not worth pursuing.

 

Imagine a world without open borders like the democrats love so much. Imagine a world where we had fair trade deals that actually worked for the american people. All these things democrats hate.

 

Nah.

Those people you are demanding he work with didnt want to see him there in the first place. Even went so far as to waste hundreds of millions on espionage and years of investigations and hearings to try and invalidate his election.

But now HE should work with THEM?

No thanks. He should do what his constituents elected him to do, and in that regard, hes been A+.

Obama didnt give two shits about me for eight years; now you know how we felt. You made your bed...

 

I'd say Ike filled that role pretty well. While I despise FDR he created a coalition of unusual demographics so I'll give him that.

Haven't had a uniting President in a looooong time.

 

Obama was 4,000 miles away when osama got his

 

IIRC, Bush thought it would be better if the Afghans killed Bin Laden. After that the U.S. did not know his precise location until he was actually killed.

At any rate, President Bush and his advisers though initially expressing a goal of "getting Bin Laden" within a few weeks decided that the war was "too much about just one man".

Either way that has no relevance to the killing of Bin Laden by President Obama.

 

Yikes! How did the thread wander this far afield?

 

Oh bull **** it has no relevance. You make excuses for Bush not doing it at all and then diss Obama for not doing it himself

 

I said nothing about Obama not doing it himself.

As for Bush, for the last 7 years of his presidency the U.S. didn't know where Obama Bin Laden was so the question is irrelevant.

 

I did imagine a world without Pres. Trump... it was a sci-fi dystopia..

 

How did the US possibly survive before the 1960s and Liberalism rose to prominence=) You think inventors of the internet and technology were the same progressives as today? Think again.

Remember, Obama and Hillary didn't even believe in same sex marriage until 2010 and were religious. By current standards they would be called bigots now. Its a different world.

 

Generally, people were never religious and never have been. Religion is a con which only works on 10% of us after childhood. We're just afraid to tell everyone as we grow older until we get into our 80's/90's whereupon we believe again.

 

Yet Obama prioritized his capture/death and lo and behold, we found him.

 

Is Trump a spineless wimp, or a bloodthirsty warmonger?

Please make up your minds.

 

So? What good did it do?

 

Should I take that comment to mean you don't think the US should have tried to bring the mastermind of the worst terrorist attack on US soil to justice? Why do I get the feeling you want to diminish killing Bin Laden because it was an achievement accomplished at Obama's direction while Shrub said he really didn't care about looking for OBL?

 

Killing Bin Laden in 2001, 2002, 2003, or even 2004 might've done some good.

2011? Not so much.

but I'm sure you will dismiss my opinion for the reasons you mentioned.

 

So, I'll take that comment to mean you don't think the US should have tried to bring the mastermind of the worst terrorist attack on US soil to justice.

 

Biden actually IS everything that the Left says that Trump is.

 

Not even close to being accurate.

 

No I was quite fine with the Obama Admin. killing Bin Laden. Just don't think it was the pinnacle of achievement and a golden moment of presidential leadership that you apparently believe it to be.

Killing Yamamoto in 1943 was a big deal. If he had been killed in 1951, not so much.

 

Because leading isn't looking to see which way the madding crowd is running today, it is having a vision for the future and trying to enact policy to bring us to that future. It is trying to persuade others to accept that vision.

 

This is the sort of delusional stuff I've come to expect from the followers of the current party of the left in America today. Since the advent of Bill Clinton the current Democratic part has been in increasing decline. It has fallen in love with power for it's own sake and a desire to drive everyone who disagrees with it's increasingly insane ideas out of existence and everyone else into poverty in the name of a some bizarre sort of egalitarianism.

 

Nice in theory. Can't happen under our current system, however.

Nice in theory. Can happen under our current system.

How to unite bitter-clinging deplorables and ANTIFA?

Trade should be bilateral, and balanced.

Immigrants are treated humanely. As long as they follow the rules.

Illegal aliens should have NO path the citizenship. EVER.

Only burdens law-abiding citizens. Automatic weapons were effectively made illegal in 1986.

Or tell the Congress "I've got a phone... and I've got a pen..."

As long as everyone involved pays their fair share? Hmh. Where have I heard that phrase before?

That's fine as long as "the press" remembers its job is to objectively uncover and report the facts instead of editorializing and using their 50,000 watts to advance their personal political agenda

Argumentum ad populum.

I agree. Valid ID and English literacy should absolutely be required to vote.

 

What GWB said and what our intelligence community did are two different things.

The hunt for Bin Laden started in 1999 and didn't stop until we got him in 2011. GWB didn't direct our intelligence agencies to stop looking for him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhunt_for_Osama_bin_Laden