In campus speech, David Hogg says U.S. is stolen land, justifies illegal immigration

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  1. Marine1

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    That is the way it's gone for thousands of years. That is what created countries. Once countries are created, they have laws governing them. To believe we can just go anywhere we want to because they did it 200-1000 years ago is crazy. The Spanish came to the Americas about a 100 years before the English. They took the land from the native Indians and established countries and laws just as America did. Their laws are much stricter than America's as to illegals. Why is it Liberals feel it's fine for Mexico or any of the other Central and South American countries to have laws as to who can come in but America can't?

    America allows about a million people to come in legally every year. More than any other country. We are there to help out any nation in cases of tragedies, even if not a friend. We give more aid to nations in need than any other. But America can not be the savior of the world. A nation can't allow in more than that nation can support and right now, we can't support the people we have. We have millions sleeping on parks and sidewalks. We have 3 out of 10 children that isn't getting the nourishment they need. Yet Liberals want open borders. Has any of them seen what is happening to the European Union with open borders? Seems many Liberals have a big heart, but a small brain. They are not looking at the whole picture.
     
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    David's FBI daddy still riding his sons coat tails to glory? Disarm citizens and don't try to resist the invasion ... That'll be the day sunshine. :lol:
     
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    Ironically, though, vast numbers of our leftists would try to hand it over to them without a fight; especially if some of THEM were required to don a uniform, learn to follow orders, and swear allegiance to this nation.
     
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    Sigh . . . at least TRY reading a world history text; and preferably one produced BEFORE the Left took over the educational processes in this nation.
     
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    Meh. I tend to leave stupid people alone as they have a propensity to remove themselves from the gene pool naturally.
     
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    Ummmm . . . voting got Trump into office and that changed . . . e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. Just ask any hysterical leftist yearning for his, her, or its *depending on gender identity preference* safe space and emergency stash of Play Dough.
     
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    Little pecker will be running for a Congressional seat one of these days.
     
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    A Sims Expansion package of America. Because teenagers do NOT run the country.
     
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    Camera Hogg is needy for attention.
     
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    Him and Cindy Sheehan.
     
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    It's probably a case of "Son? What son? I sure as hell don't have a son. That boy is too stupid to be MY son!" with him.
     
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    Poor ol' Cindy. I wonder if the Left that tossed her under the bus after they elected Warmonger-in-Chief Barack Obama are ever going to rediscover her now that Trump is going to be the president for eight straight years? Wouldn't that be a hoot?
     
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    Might is right then - is that what you're saying? What your advocating is the law of the jungle.
     
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    OK ... yes, the land was stolen from native Americans. Now let's start eviction proceedings against the "squatters". Obviously the most RECENT ARRIVALS have the least claim. :;): Evict them before they "anchor" themselves. Is that logic why Pocohantas wants so desperately wants to claim her heritage? The argument is stupid beyond belief. What right did native Americans have to deny Europeans asylum? :roflol:
     
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    These are yours.
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    Pass the popcorn.
     
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    Really, it does for the most part. Especially when it comes to protecting ones own citizens. If you believe the Islamist will sit down and talk to anyone who is not protected by an army of superior strength, then you are delusional. Why was it that the US got Japan to surrender? Cause of the might of the A-bomb. Why did Russia and the USA never actually attack each other, cause of the might of MAD. Why did Indian tribes conquer other tribes? Cause they had the might to do so.
     
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    Voting changes everything.

    Voting (or lack of it) gave us Trump.

    ONE vote in Virginia swung the VA legislature over to the Dems and hundreds of thousands got healthcare

    Voting MATTERS

    And I still have not seen a quote from Hogg that supports what the OP claimed
     
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    So quite wrong, the guy does not have ...

    On the one hand, it is of the native stolen country and the nefarious American handling of the natives in the history that goes into the 1970's is very well known ... although not liked by many Americans, if you tell them the truth and destroyed her dream of the Wild West a la "John Wayne & Co".

    Funny is also that the US has always dealt with the last immigrants where numerous came in the history of racist and abominable xenophobic. Anyone who doubts that should take a closer look at the immigrant waves of the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese and the Eastern Europeans and then fall into shameful silence.
    Today it is the Latinos ... especially if they immigrated illegally!
     
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    You don't see it in this quote “We also have to acknowledge the fact that disproportionately Native Americans are underrepresented in our government and we also have to acknowledge how wrong it is that we call people illegal on stolen land.” I mean really? You cant see him conflating the two in the same sentence? This isn't even out of context, its full context.
     
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    Jesus, how many times do I have to say it? Yes, might makes right. Welcome to the jungle. The only thing that shields our people from slaughter and enslavement is a strong military. The only reason that nations are able to conduct diplomacy in a civil fashion is because there are hundreds of thousands of men and women ready to take the lives of America’s enemies if they should get too out of hand. Peace is the exception, a wonderful illusion that is able to exist only when our allies and ourselves are militarily strong.
     
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    You did finally nail the problem down, in the final sentence. "America" hasn't done any of what you claimed for the majority of the immigrants. Small, loud MOBS of the dems have acted that way. "America", "the south", "Whites" always get blamed for what democrats have done in the past, when has been the same people who stopped the way dems acted in the past. No other country came in to stop democrat slavery, that was "America", and "whites". No country came into America to force the CRA, or Voting right act down our throats, "White American's" did that. How about you get your pronouns right and call those who are "racist, misogynist, xenophobes" what they are, cause they aren't "America", they are "democrats".
     
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    THAT is "justifying illegal immigration"?

    Not even close.

    He's pointing out issues and none of what he is talking about is untrue
     
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    Why is it that it appears only Trump fans talk about what this kids has to say??
     
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    Strange ... these issues were done and happened in US history at Republican and at Democrat Presidents and US Presidents and gvernments act in name of the US people at least...
     

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