Increase in Muslims in US Since the 80's an Occupation, Not Immigration

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Western ignorance of the various sects in Islam hasn't helped, at all. Radical Islamists persecute members of the Muslim sects that abjure violence in the name of religion--the Sufis, especially--which seem to be the mystical branch of Islam that has followers both Shia and Sunni, but there are other/s as well.

In any case, the best the West can do is reject and eject representatives from that culture until they reform: we can't force it any more than they would be able to change our religious views by force...although at this point in history they seem as a group more willing to take that avenue than we do.

I hate to say it, but the more I see of Islam in action and learn about Mohammed, the more I begin to see why Hillary's destructive actions in the ME might have had some reasonable objective--but having thousands more come here instead removed any benefit her policies might have had.

Mohammed was truly an evil person. Obama's enablement of that culture in our country was an evil act, whether he realized it or not. Perhaps it is even possible Obama is the "Antichrist" Christians were warned about in prophesy.

 

The acts of Theresa were pathetic grovelling in the Middle East late last year. We have enough resources collectively to stimulate enough trade and prosperity without the Middle East.

 

So there is no response for acts of sedition? For inciting hatred and violence? For inciting racism? For inciting sexism? For inciting discrimination?

The intolerance of religious freedom is written in the Quran itself!

 

Certain acts of sedition, absolutely.
Thinking about sedition, talking about sedition, or even organizing groups to carry out non-violent acts of submission are all protected.

 

Protesting in a peaceful way for a peaceful purpose is fine. To protest/organize/meet in order to promote a racist, supremacist, barbaric, violent, sexist and discriminatory ideology that is written in a book like Islam would violate many laws in our democracies.

 

I don't think it would, unless there was an incitement to violence.
Having said that, I can think of some Islamic protesters that were, in my view, inciting violence and I have been annoyed that it was not dealt with appropriately.

 

The Hillary Foundation was on the payroll of many foreign countries across the world. Trust is the greatest currency at these levels not paper or plastic.

I am not into all the prophecy stuff. Who knows what Obama was. Perhaps he was a Muslim, he certainly seemed to favour Muslims, bowing to Muslim desert kings.

 

People in public or in a mass carrying signs or chanting that a holocaust is coming, to behead people, and to nuke cities/nations should go straight to jail or be deported.

 

Europe tried that, words can't stop machetes and radical extremists from killing people. And simply saying "we have to live with that", is no risk people will accept. People accept risks they can deal with, we can't "deal" with when one crazy lunatic says "Allah Akubar."

 

Which is why we need to stop Islamic immigration into the country. Letting terrorist nations like Saudi Arabia build Mosques/schools in your country isn't going to help solve this issue.

 

This is just incredibly stupid. CAIR and Wahhabis are diametrically opposed in beliefs...

 

Yes, they fight themselves and everybody else, and you want to let them into your country.

 

We can't get anything done about it because of freedom of religion.

 

That worked out splendid for Iraq, didn't it?

 

Well nobody answers my questions on here.

I see Saudi Arabia as a nation that needs reform. Perhaps, a different tactic is needed to ensure they are a pro-Western and a well-integrated global nation. I think we can all agree that we don't want extreme, fundamental, and radical Mosques/schools starting up. The intel agencies can't control what is happening right now.

 

And you think simply going over there and telling them this is going to make it work? No one wants more extremism in the world and frankly, urging the people who already live there to make their own change makes more sense.

 

Are you speaking for your country or the USA?

 

How much time have your spent in Arabia and what do you think you should change?

 

No, this needs strategic planning and coordination.

And what is the alternative? We continue to allow Mosque/schools inciting violence and the hijack of our democracies?

The chickens have come home to roost for us in the West. We either allow this to continue, or we make a coordinated effort to push Islam back into to its territories and to reform it.

If not, we might as well convert to Islam now. The 4 wives is an enticing offer though.

 

LOLOL.. The West has been in KSA for 70 years and fortunately the US government has kept their hands off.

You can't teach them a thing.. They are light years ahead of you Chris..

 

You are coming from gross ignorance about China, Russia and Saudi Arabia.

 

I don't live in the UK or USA, however I live in the Western world.

 

Since 9/11 every "tearist" (Bush's word) has been a legal immigrant who years later converted to support terrorism. Not one came here as a terrorist. Recently Tweety published a list of some 300 U.S. terrorists to prove my point. He listed a Portland Oregon terrorist who came here as a baby and at age 19 tried to carry out a terrorist attack. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/fbi_thwarts_terrorist_bombing.html
He is one I am quite familiar with but none of Tweety's examples would have been stopped by "effective extreme vetting".

 

And, you have advice for everyone but are too ashamed to name your country.

 

I can come up with a strategy to leave Saudi Arabia in the dark.