Increase in Muslims in US Since the 80's an Occupation, Not Immigration

No Shame here. I am in essence a Western citizen, with citizenship from both sides of the planet.

 

So if Conservative Christians conducted a march calling on the US to bomb Iran for instance, they should be jailed or deported immediately?

 

Well have you seen this?

 

Calls on the US to bomb Iran were quite common at Tea Party events.

 

Let me see, was it nukes or conventional? What was the purpose? Was it because Iran said that they wanted to ethnically cleanse an entire race like the Nazis? What was the benefit?

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...s-to-iran-deal-peaceniks-shut-the-f-k-up.html

If you demand more links, I can provide dozens.

 

Strategic planning that does not involve constant U.S. intervention. Like I said, it worked out sooooooo well in Iraq, didn't it?

Or we could learn our lesson from previous interventions in the Middle East and back off. If they don't want it, then they don't want it.

Are you seriously afraid that big bad Islam has taken over America right now? Does that really keep you up at night?

 

No. but I am looking at the Swedish concept to re-introduce National Service. I can't help but wonder whether an (undisclosed) element of their thinking is to have some indoctrination time of their own on the second generation, away from the home community.

 

That is why I did not mention CAIR.

Saudi Arabia is in a very large part responsible for spreading Wahhabism. Their government policy domestically is dominated by it. Along with money they send teachers that learned and practice Wahhabism to places like Europe and the US.

Their children learn it in schools. Things like they can not be friends with non-muslims, it is okay to kill Christians and Jews because they are no better than monkeys and pigs, etc.

Why do you think you can not travel to Saudi Arabia like any other Western country?

I see one issue that can be blamed on the left and that is not calling a spade a spade. Of course the right goes overboard and paints a picture of a vast horde of Muslims in the US or Europe waiting to rape and kill your family.

 

Removing the wahabbist imams that control the grand mosque would be a start and reversing Kahled's idiotic "solution to religious upheaval is simple - more religion" policies that have resulted in the export of 7th century Islamic "militant" interpretations and medieval social mores all over the planet.

Simply replacing the wahabbis with somebody like the Aga Khan would be my fantasy. You should see his Islamic Cultural Centre and Museum in Toronto - awesome.

 

You have a very careless and flippant approach

 

Iran have directly threatened the USA and Israel. What do you expect.

 

So then you are now backing down from your demand that people who protest in favor of bombing countries be put in prison?

 

1ST point, these people aren't demanding to bomb their own country or the allies of the country.

2ND point, Iran is a Nazi-Islamic State that is a global menace spreading terrorism throughout the world.

3RD point, their civilians are protesting frequently to destroy Israel, America and the West.

 

Think about Sweden / Germany.

See? Now you feel a whole lot better about the USA.

 

That's because I've seen what happens when our country overstays its welcome and puts its hands where they don't belong. Why do you think I keep bringing up Iraq?

 

This is the world we live in. It is rule or be ruled over. It is only going to get worse in the Middle East. We in the west have 2 options:

1. We go all in and completely destroy fundamental Islam in the Islamic world, then set up diplomatic, friendly and pro-western governments that teach their youth peace and harmony.

2. We seal off the Islamic world, ban all immigration and refugees, and let them destroy/fight themselves in perpetuity.

A one foot in and one foot out approach isn't working it seems. Either way we need to halt Muslim immigration until the religious-political ideology reforms.

 

I suppose ISIS still existing and the instability of several nations there doesn't count as "worse," huh?

Iraq, again. We went in, "destroyed" the fundamental Islam there and tried to set up a better government. Do you see where Iraq is right now?

Also, the Islamic world consists of more than just Middle Eastern nations but also some in Central Asia, northern Africa and parts of eastern Asia, many of which are countries the average person doesn't think about much less care about. That means you'd spend a huge amount of funding and time in countries that cover half the world. That's pretty impractical.

Let's keep watching on how well this ban on refugees here is working out.

 

Some Muslims assimilate. Usually by the 3rd generation they are pretty Americanized if their parents aren't super strict. It usually depends on how devout they are and if they are exposed to atheism and realize religion is for the most part BS.

 

So then you don't actually have a problem with people calling for the bombing of countries. You just have a problem with Muslims.