Iran arrests demonstrators in 2nd day of anti-regime protests

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    Darcy was a private citizen of the UK.. He founded Anglo-Persian oil. The Brits paid very little for it when they bought it from Darcy.
     
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    What is this, goody?
     
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    You lifted one comment out of a large post. You don’t know which one of his comments I was agreeing with.
     
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    You wrote "I know" - and quoted the entire post. You did not select a sentence and affirm your agreement with that alone.

    Second, am STILL waiting for evidence the US "overthrew a democracy in central/south america". Or have you thrown in the towel on that claim as well?
     
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    Well, perhaps I was sloppy in reading just a portion of his post and agreeing with it. But I’ll just tell you my opinion of the relationship between the US and Israel now. They use each other to advance their own interests, which for America’s part allows Israel to get away with things that they shouldn’t, most notably and already mentioned by many others on this forum repeatedly, is the way we have historically protected them at the UN. I think that this allows too much influence to Israel in their region and I think that Israel has too much influence right here in the untitled States. I do not however think that Israel is running the whole world. As to the United States penchant for regime change around the world and specifically in Latin America, I don’t know why I need to go dig up for you what has long been common knowledge.

    Also, it’s very odd to me that there are so many posters on this forum that aren’t American but regularly defend US statecraft, hegemony and our various forms of imperialism. A real head scratcher.

    United States involvement in regime change has entailed both overt and covert actions aimed at altering, replacing, or preserving foreign governments. In the latter half of the 19th century, the U.S. government undertook regime changeactions mainly in Latin America and the southwest Pacific, and included the Mexican-American, Spanish-American and Philippine-American wars. At the onset of the 20th century the United States shaped or installed friendly governments in many countries including Panama, Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
     
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    Please, keep the personal insults and flamebait going, by all means...
     
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    Oops, looks like you posted too soon.
     
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    Was waiting - and HOPING - that that would be the link you'd try to hide behind...

    1) that is not a mainstream news source that we agreed upon...not NYT, CNN or BBC

    2) none of those leaders removed were leading a democracy - they might have used the democratic process to achieve power, but were not practicing democratic rule - and the countries were not democracies.

    Let's go back to your claim: The US "overthrew a latin american democracy."

    I set a trap, and you landed right in it. Thanks for proving me correct.
     
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    You set no traps, and are very deficient in USFP history. Oh, and I just saw where you called the NYT a bunch of turds. Now you want them as an authority. Let me tell you something dear, you have none of the authority that you try to walk around this forum with. In fact you’re very worthy of being ignored.
     
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    Even much of our mainstream media in the US has been on to USFP pursues with the use of our Central Intelligence Agency.

    From Newsweek Magazine

    The CIA, an entity that has interfered in sovereign governments across the geopolitical chessboard for decades, has accused another country of doing exactly what the agency does best without offering any physical evidence for their claims.

    Let’s say Russia did intervene in the U.S. elections; it would be the most fitting example of “chickens coming home to roost.”

    https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/us-interventions-in-latin-american-021/

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/cia-has-been-undermining-governments-years-531609?amp=1
     
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    Where would Israel be without its army of snarky Hasbara Trolls?

    Name just ONE other foreign lobby that has so much influence it can successfully drive the US to fight its wars:

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


    Meanwhile, read & learn:

    "How the Israel Lobby Controls US Foreign Policy in the Middle East"

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-israel-lobby-controls-us-foreign-policy-middle-east-matthews

    EXCERPT "Israel has been able to get pretty much everything they want in terms of expanding illegal settlements, billions in US foreign aid money, the wanton killing of Palestinian civilians for alleged “self-defense”, and the overall continued genocidal Apartheid occupation of a brutalized population in the prison-like ghettos of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. In other words, the situation as it exists in the occupied territories is neither good for the US or Israel.

    If it’s considered important enough to oust a suspected enemy of the State of Israel, orchestrated programs can involve any number of dirty tricks to include black mail, bribery, frame jobs, cyber attacks and, of course, threats to one’s character, livelihood, and even life. Again, it’s all a question of severity and how much of a threat (or rather perceived threat) someone in an established powerful position is to what Israel views as their national interests, i.e. Machiavellian dominance. You can bet that what works well for CIA goes double for Mossad."CONTINUED
     
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    It would appear that there’s a real disconnect. It seems rather a waste of time. What’s of greater importance to the United States is not some uninformed poster on an ABC forum that is denying the affects of USFP in statecraft, hegemony and various forms of imperialism. It’s the chickens that are coming home to roost as a result as we watch the empire fall further into decay.
     
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    Post reported
     
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    Provide the evidence that none of the countries had a democratically elected government Jimmy. Your word is certainly not enough, we would need to see a suitable mainstream source.

    If you wish to spring your trap, provide the evidence!
     
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    You'll never find a source supporting the fact that Israel's lobbies run US Mid East policy that is acceptable to individuals devoted to distorting the truth about parasitic Zionist machinations in US Government.

    Meanwhile, the following article outlines how Zionist lobbies lure US politicians into a Faustian bargain they "can't refuse"

    "How the Israel Lobby Gets What It Wants"
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/09/26/how-the-israel-lobby-gets-what-it-wants/

    EXCERPT "I have written elsewhere about this corrupting process that I call “lobbification.” In brief, this is how it operates:

    Step One: A lobbyist, in this case someone from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), approaches Congresspersons or Senators. At some point in time that means every single one of them has been approached: all 435 voting members of Congress and every one of the 100 voting members of the Senate. Party affiliation is not an issue here.

    Step Two: The lobbyist offers to organize financial campaign assistance, positive media coverage, briefings on situations in the Middle East, trips to Israel, etc.

    Step Three: All that is asked in return is that the recipient consistently vote in a pro-Israel way. In other words, AIPAC wants the politician to surrender a part of his or her mind to the lobby — that part that might exercise critical and considered judgment on issues pertaining to Israel.

    Step Four: There are several unspoken, but publicly acknowledged, consequences of turning down this offer, or alternatively, managing to get elected on your own and then voting the wrong way.

    1. If you say no, the same offer will be made to your opponent both at the primary and general election levels.

    2. If you are elected and vote against Israel, AIPAC will do all it can, sooner or later, to see you defeated. It has a good record of turning such people out of office.

    Step Five: If you sign up for this Faustian bargain and are elected, the lobby becomes your permanent partner. It is a constant presence. Its agents are always hovering about, rating your performance, letting you know they are there."CONTINUED

    Sadly, the current, Trump administration is as deeply Zionist owned & operated as any:

    "Trump Administration Dominated by Zionist Lobby"
    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/02/25/512070/US-politics-Iran

    "Meet the Zionists In Donald Trumps Administration"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/The-top-Jewish-officials-in-the-Trump-Administration-479769

    "Meet the Jews in Donald Trump’s Inner Circle"
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-the-jews-in-donald-trumps-inner-circle/
     
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    The 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état was a covert operation carried out by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that deposed the democratically elected Guatemalan President Jacobo Árbenz and ended the Guatemalan Revolution of 1944–1954. Code-named Operation PBSUCCESS, it installed the military dictatorship of Carlos Castillo Armas, the first in a series of U.S.-backed authoritarian rulers in Guatemala.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d'état
     
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    Yes, I know that you are correct as to sourcing. And as to Israeli influence in the US I’m aware of how powerful it is too. Thanks for the material you posted here!! And honestly, I’m not even interested in talking to such a caustic individual.
     
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    LMAO!! Protocols Parrot squawks "Hasbara Trolls". :roflol:

    Are you even capable of an original thought?
     
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    Welcome to the forum, up and at em,:dual: old chap, wot wot!;)
     
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    Why? We beat them down at home.
     
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    To be fair, both have been very effective at beating down protestors at home, so there's that.
     
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    Typical leftist nonsense. So you're rooting for the iranian regime, got it.
     
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    If you cannot face reality I don't consider that my problem. Much like your assignment of positions to others.
     
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