Iran mocks WWII Holocaust, prepares another

Israel is a liberal democracy.

I would expect nothing less for a holocaust denial supporter who also believes that Palestinians are a real people.

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So not only does it have to be a death by diesel exhaust but specifically a suicide by diesel exhaust? Can you explain why the death has to be a suicide to prove that diesel exhaust is deadly to humans?

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Here I'll put nice and big so you can read it:

When the toxicology results showed lethal blood COHbg, the cause of death was re-certified as CO intoxication secondary to inhalation of (diesel) vehicular exhaust fumes.

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It's not an opinion the cause of death was diesel exhaust inhalation, do you have a problem with plain (*)(*)(*)(*)ing English?

 

The Qu'ran supports a holocaust against the Jews and Christian's. Maybe that's the whole issue in the Middle East, if we are totally honest.

 

still waiting for [MENTION=70864]SamSkwamch[/MENTION] to put his theory to the test, by renting a diesel engine vehicle, hooking up a hose from the exhaust pipe to the window, sealing up all other vents, and running the engine for an hour.

i wonder why he wont do this.

 

here you go [MENTION=70864]SamSkwamch[/MENTION].

you can rent a diesel engine truck and put your claims to the test

https://www.enterprisetrucks.com/tr...s/ThreeQuarterTon4WDPickupTruck-business.html

https://www.hertzequip.com/herc/ren...pment/trucks-&-trailers+pickup-trucks+3.4-ton

http://www.ryder.com/truck-rental.aspx

 

Who do you think you are fooling? There can be no democracy in an apartheist regime. Israel occupies lands where millions of human beings are denied their most basic rights. Israel is the proud spiritual son of the nazi regime, especially in its pre-WWII era. It's not because they substituted the star of David for the swatiska that it makes them any better.

Only a racist of the basest level would even advance that the Palestinians are not a real people. What if I wrote that Jews are not real people? You'd squeal like a stuck pig, IMO, and file a complain to the mod team.

I think the Holocaust did took place but that its numbers were inflated - which, if it makes me a denyier in your book, I'll embrace it happily. Insults doesn't mean a thing when it's coming from someone who resort to them as soon as the first obstacle is encountered.

Palestinians are a real people zionists wants gone from the lands they think are theirs by divine right. You can't get any more extremist than that.

 

You killed your own argument when you decided to use the expression "deranged people". Freudian slip?

The next logical phrase should have been "deranged people use hammers to kill because they're driven by the wrong ideas".

You see, the hammer is an object. We can put it in a drawer and forget about it until it's needed to hang a picture, or kill someone. Holocaust denial, on the other hand, is made of ideas. It's an ideology. Like any other ideology, it's an integral part of one's mind. A hammer is being driven by one's will. One's will is driven by one's mind, by one's ideology. Ideology is not a tool. Ideology is us.

Nazis' actions were dictated by a certain ideology. In light of the results of those actions, we can safely say that their ideology is bad.

A further difference between a hammer and ideas is in their perceived purpose. While it's obvious that mishandling a hammer is dangerous, not so with ideas. Perfect evil can be wrapped in the most beautiful rhetoric, corrupting the minds of millions. When someone runs at you screaming and brandishing a hammer, you'll probably understand that he doesn't mean to wish you a nice day. When someone speaks to you in an articulate manner, using human rights rhetoric and a perfect grammar, you'll probably fail to see the ideological hammer crushing your mind.

Perfect example for the rhetoric I mentioned before. With no factual basis whatsoever, no proof given, but of course very appealing to uncritical minds, because it looks like you really care about the poor imaginary victims of those bad imaginary Zionists. The invisible hammer within.

Truth is tricky. We can never fully grasp it. We don't have complete knowledge (generally speaking).

I'd say that the cause for which the truth is being searched is relevant. Truth applies to something specific in specific circumstances. For instance, it's true that some Nazis were very good family men, but it's also true they destroyed families. So, if the cause is "I want to now how were those Nazis at home", the truth is they were wonderful people. If the cause is "I want to how were those Nazis in camps", the truth is they were despicable.

I think he meant to say that they are not a nation.

 

Israel is a liberal democracy with full and equal rights for all citizens, you're thinking of the Arab states and disputed territories ruled by terrorist organizations surrounding Israel wherein the Nazi Mufti is still celebrated as a hero, where Jews are not allowed to set foot, and whose charters call for the extermination of the Jewish people. Pan Arabism now replaced by Pan Islamism are the spiritual successors of Nazism hence the term Islamic Fascism this would explain why anti-Semitism is in the high 90 percentile within the Arab world, why Mein Kampf is still a bestseller, and why holocaust denial is rampant.

No there is factually no such thing as a Palestinian people they are Arabs no different from any other Arab.

You would be wrong as the Jews are a real people with a distinct history, culture, language, and genetic lineage, whereas, the Arabs residing in the disputed territories are no different than any other Arabs.

I know this because Hamas and PLO leaders past and present readily admit it:

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle
against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality
today there is no difference between Jordanians,
Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and
tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand
that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian
people' to oppose Zionism.

"For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa.
While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa,
Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we
reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even
a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."

(PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977
interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw.)

[video=youtube;0B5hKbDdkU4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B5hKbDdkU4[/video]

All holocaust deniers seek to minimize the holocaust numbers until they reach zero so yes you are a holocaust denier and holocaust denial is a decisively anti-Semitic ideology used by Nazi's to rehabilitate the Nazi regimes past in order for them to make their ideology acceptable in the present and future. Color me shocked that you hate Israel.

There's no such thing as a Palestinian, they're fictional characters like Santa or Mohammad.

 

Everyone take note. This is how Ron operates. 1) He did not post the study so we could examine it, and 2) He did not even post the whole absract because it concludes:

Lastly, an extensive literature review produced no scientifically reported cases of fatal CO poisoning attributed to diesel fuel exhaust.

no scientifically reported cases

as in none!

Total fail.

 

have you rented that diesel engine truck yet?

i look forward to hearing your results

 

Umm no again learn to read here is an example of a death caused by diesel fume inhalation:


the cause of death was re-certified as CO intoxication secondary to inhalation of (diesel) vehicular exhaust fumes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18643868

Thanks for playing better luck next time.

 

1) Please post the paper in its entirety so we can examine it.

2) You know exactly why you wont and why Ron posted like he did.

From his link and he generally agrees with you...

"... an extensive literature review produced no scientifically reported cases of fatal CO poisoning attributed to diesel fuel exhaust."

Do you know the meaning of extensive?

Does the part that says: "no scientifically reported cases of fatal CO poisoning attributed to diesel fuel exhaust." mean anything at all to you?

Be honest, it's OK, we already know.

 

have you rented that diesel engine truck yet?

i cant wait to hearing your results

 

You'll have to pay for it as I seriously doubt that one such as yourself has free access to academic databases but here it is:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/wol1/doi/10.1111/j.1556-4029.2008.00804.x/full

Except they did cite a case in which diesel exhaust caused death it's right in the abstract:

. When the toxicology results showed lethal blood COHbg, the cause of death was re-certified as CO intoxication secondary to inhalation of (diesel) vehicular exhaust fumes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18643868

Thanks for playing better luck next time.

 

he thinks diesel exhaust is soooo safe, but he's unwilling to sit in a truck cabin filled with it.

i wonder why?

 

You're just pissed cuz Ron unwittingly posted the case-breaker and I'm LMAO.

 

Yes it is the case breaker which cites a case of death by diesel exhaust inhalation.


. When the toxicology results showed lethal blood COHbg, the cause of death was re-certified as CO intoxication secondary to inhalation of (diesel) vehicular exhaust fumes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18643868

Why is plain English so difficult for you to grasp?

 

It isn't. Ron just posted what you wanted to hear so you are disregarding where the abstract concludes.

They admit after extensive research, nobody was found to have died from diesel exhaust.

I can hardly wait for you or Ron to post the whole thing. Betcha anything it is was written as a response to the revisionists and others who have pointed this out for ever, showing the Treblinka story for the crap it is.

Post the whole thing. I dare you.

 

Except for this one:



. When the toxicology results showed lethal blood COHbg, the cause of death was re-certified as CO intoxication secondary to inhalation of (diesel) vehicular exhaust fumes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18643868

Plain English genius learn it.

. When the toxicology results showed lethal blood COHbg, the cause of death was re-certified as CO intoxication secondary to inhalation of (diesel) vehicular exhaust fumes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18643868

Woops, and you're done.

I already did, again you'll have to pay for it as it is in an academic journal.

 

rented that diesel engine truck yet?

where did the 800,000 Jews sent to Treblinka go?

Mars? Jupiter?

 

Water-murking Fabulations.

You try to over-rationalize the fact that Israel shares much, ideologically speaking, with the regime that made it successful. Your only argumentation against it is an outrage that you wish was enforced by law.

Hence you fear it?

I don't buy that thoughtcrime codswallop for a second.

Now who was talking about a Freudian slip?

 

Ha ha ha. Once again, who are you trying to fool? You are giving me school grade revisionist salad? Seriously? As if this infantile picture you dare propose me has never been debunked before? You tribalism and hatred is showing without any form of subtility, my friend. Your Hasbara bosses may like such grotesque lip devotion, but I myself is insulted by it.

Palestinians are more semitic than the Khazar descendants who invaded them. There are from semitic peoples that lived there for millenias, including jewish semites. Their arab culture is just that - culture.

A racist sees no differences in the types he hates - he only knows that his "race" is best. Oh, and Himmler called; He wants his 1937 argumentation back.

You selectively believe PLO/Hamas when it's convenient for you to do so.

I just plain don't trust ideologies that are enforced by means of coercion and detention. The main factor that is rehabilitating the nazi regime is Israel's action, not the people who argue how many millions of jews really were exterminated in death camps.

I do, like all decent people and a majority on the planet also do. I am also quite proud and vocal about it.

So what, the US sends them billions every year so that Israel can abuse elves and goblins?

 

Until you post the article itself, we must consider Ron's post who believes as you:

Lastly, an extensive literature review produced no scientifically reported cases of fatal CO poisoning attributed to diesel fuel exhaust.

no scientifically reported cases

as in none!

Total fail.

 

The truth (sic!) is that I wrote my answer for those fortunate enough to understand what they read. I'm arrogant, I know. Oh, and despicable.

Please provide a working definition for "Israeli ideology".

Please provide proof for your assertions about:

1. Israeli ideology (as defined by you)
2. my wishes

Real proof, like in evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth, will be discussed. Anything else will be dismissed as - how did you so brilliantly, though incorrectly in the context, put it? - oh yes, Water-murking Fabulations. I'm a fast learner, see, and I even learn from enemies.

At least this time you bothered to ask. Nice.

I think we all fear truth sometimes. The simplest example is fear of death.

Truth about past events is not something to be feared. It's something to be studied, understood, and used to improve our ways.

What I really fear is manipulative misrepresentation of the truth. It poisons the mind. But, of course, you won't even ask me what I mean by "manipulative misrepresentation of the truth", you'll jump to conclusions about my despicable wishes, murky codswallop and the like, so why bother.

What thought crime? Are you sure you answered the text quoted?

It's abundantly clear that English is not your mother tongue.

 

Except for the initial case which prompted the study genius:

When the toxicology results showed lethal blood COHbg, the cause of death was re-certified as CO intoxication secondary to inhalation of (diesel) vehicular exhaust fumes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18643868

Plain English is hard isn't it?

 

Perfect example of "manipulative misrepresentation of the truth", thank you so much.

The sentence "Lastly, an extensive literature review produced no scientifically reported cases of fatal CO poisoning attributed to diesel fuel exhaust" does not say what you think it says. It says that there are no SCIENTIFIC studies of specific fatal cases of poisoning by diesel fuel exhaust. It does not say that there are no cases of fatal poisoning by diesel fuel exhaust at all.