IRAN: "Will Attack US Bases if They Are At War With Israel."

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  1. Goodoledays

    Goodoledays New Member

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    :floating:Well dude...Israel's enemies are our enemies. Can't you figure that out yet. What a shame.
     
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    Iran can cause great harm to both Israel and the US but realistically speaking Ahmy is losing it and those statements are for domestic consumption. If Iran gets into any military confrontation right now in my humble opinion the only certainty is the collapse of their regime .

    The Benghazi incident isn't an indicator , Libyans are pro-America and they voted an ex Professor of the University of Arizona (or Alabama) for their president leaving Islamists out of the game . The problem from what i have read are the "pocket armies" - small armed groups of fanatics but this is natural for a country just after a revolution. Obama should stick with the Libyans even at psychological level only and they will wipe those fanatics out on their own.
     
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    Do you have some examples of the Shah's tyranny? Was it his acceptance of western values? He did let his citizens listen to the radio, wear makeup, western style clothing, skip Friday prayers, think for themselves, divorce their abusive husbands, - - the list of un-islamic activities is pretty long alright. On the other hand he also punished traitors to the country in ways that they understood.

    As you know if you have a clue, the reason the Shah was overthrown was his acceptance of western values.
    In that BH Obama has all but spit in Israel's eye over and over I think that it is you that is the fool here. If Israel waits until after the election BHO will do nothing after he thinks about what to do for a week. If Israel attack today BHO will call in from the campaign trail and promise to help if the Jews will donate more money to his campaign. But in the end his team will do too little too late to help.

    Even if Iran attacks our bases in Afghanistan BHO will spend days trying to decide what to do before he retreats and apologizes for the evils of Israel for going without his consent.

    I just hope that a few of our generals will respond and cook the Iranian leaders and a few hundred thousand of the Revolutionary Guard.

    An unrestrained military exchange with us might be the best thing that can happen to the Iranian people that will be left alive.
     
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    conservatives are all the same ... bluster and babble in child tantrum hysteria like Sununu ... LOL.
     
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    Excellent assessment.. That is exactly what's going on.. Obama is showing sound judgment.
     
  6. RP12

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    You dont learn do you. Im not an Obama supporter.. I think my posting history covers this... And I am not an Atheist.... So much fail in one post man... Its (*)(*)(*)(*) sad.
     
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    Someone certainly should.
     
  8. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AS opposed to the Lie/Retreat/Apologise/Surrender Obama foreign policy...
     
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    SAVAK torturing people = Western Values now? So torture is ok as long as you can wear makeup during it?
     
  10. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, feeding more of the world's hungry than any other nation in history, has been a shameful act....
     
  11. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ANd th Little Hitler and the Imams held ice cream socials for the failed "Green Revolution" leaders...right?

    The Shah's foes were COMMUNIST OPERATIVES; the current regime's foes seek DEMOCRACY...
     
  12. RP12

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    One tyrant doesnt make another better.... Why was one tyrant an ally but another an enemy? Face it US policy is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed and it has been for awhile.
     
  13. Margot

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    The only people that benefited under the Shah were the elite circle.. It wasn't Westernization that felled the Shah.. it was land reforms and student demonstrations.

    Obama hasn't "spit in Israel's eye".. He has given them more money and Iron Dome.. so he is keenly aware of their security needs.. but Bibi is a horse's ass.. He had a screaming tantrum at the US Ambassador, is running anti-Obama TV ads in Florida and called Obama a J Street Jew.

    Basically.. there is NOTHING for Obama and Bibi to talk about since Bibi does NOT want peace.

    Every US president since Eisenhower has been crapped on by the Zionists.
     
  14. exotix

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    Serious ... todays conservatives have the composure of a tormented child who thinks if he throws a tantrum he'll get his way ... Bush and the neocons at least had some sort of composure from *My Pet Goat* to *Mushroom Clouds* to strumming guitar as Katrina approached to paying-off terrorists finally culminating in the 2nd conservative Great Depression ...

    The Taxpayers were always there to soothe those tormented souls ... but now that we're broke ... well, conservatives want you to believe we are ... that's why they want you to believe that for this topic ... we need World War Romney ...
     
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    Bullcrap. One tyrant who is OUR ALLY is FAR BETTER than one who isn't.

    Once again, welcome to the Real World, which is an IMPERFECT PLACE, unlike the Delusions of Anrachists, who actually believe in a world that can never be....unless they want the ONLY LAW, to be the Law of the Jungle....
     
  16. Grokmaster

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    Blah, blah,blah.

    More complete nonsense, to avoid facing the utter failure of the Obamadebacle in the Middle East....
     
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    When you can stop babbling reply to me again. So we pick and chose which Tyrants to back because the world isnt perfect?
     
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    We have no business creating treaties of war with nations across the globe. Maybe with Canada and Mexico, but certainly not overseas (sorry Great Britain). Not only are we broke, but also, American lives will go and be spent in bloody battle when we have never had our mainland attacked by any nation of the middle east.

    This hypnosis that has fallen over everyone that leads them to believe that Americans should die for nations that don't pay US taxes or contribute to the US GNP or send us aid at all at any time needs to have some cold water splashed on it.

    Yes, I like Israel just fine. Jesus was a Judean Jew and I think it's a pretty country. I like the UK, too. Great countryside and gave us great works of literature. I still don't think that we're in a position to march off to war for any nation other than America.

    All of you who think this is a great idea probably didn't see the person you love most in this world march off to excessive rotations of duty in the Middle East. They are tired of war. They are spent. They are people who deserve a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing break.

    Let these nations fight their own battles and let our troops fight ours.
     
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    16 trillion in debt does, in fact, mean we are broke. Obama for all of his "Yes We Can" was a big "Not Right Now" when it came to pulling troops out of the east and as a result plunged us further into debt.
     
  20. Grokmaster

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    More Iranians were middle class under the Shah than now; women could SHOW THEIR FACES under the Shah; people were FREE TO LEAVE IRAN under the Shah.

    I was wondering how long you'd be able to hold you before the "Zionsists!! Zionists!!Zionists!!" rant....
     
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    Iranian women still show their faces and are quite fashionable. Did you figure out where Kharg Island is yet?
     
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    Are you suggesting years of sanctions have nothing to do with that?
     
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    We pick and choose in accordance with what best suits our national interests. It's not America's responsibility to impose regime change on every government we don't agree with.
     
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    Our nations interest = Corporate interests....
     
  25. Grokmaster

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    Uh-huh, right. Iran is a veritable bastion of Freedom for All,and Womens' rights:
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    TEHRAN, Iran — Every summer, Iranian police get tough on women who violate the country’s strict Islamic dress code by adjusting their veils and long coats to try to cope with the rising temperatures.

    But this year, amid the annual crackdown, the issue of how women wear the veil — and what the government does about it — has become part of an intensifying rift between President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and powerful Shiite clerics.

    In April, Iran’s national police intensified their patrols, with officers roaming the streets on motorcycles, impounding cars driven by women who had removed their headscarves. Fines and punishments, which sometimes include whipping, have been increased.


    http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110731/news/707319947/

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    They are planning a new "dress code" for female foreign journalists, as you read this, as well.

    Have never given a thought in my life to "Kharg Island", WTF that is....why are you LYING, trying to imply that I have?
     

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