Iraq Tearing at the Seams

When sectarian violence reaches pre-surge levels, then you have something to worry about. Until then, not so much.

 

Very perceptive of you, Albert...

 

Not at all. People in that area have been killing each other for centuries, and there's no reason to believe that it's going to stop any time soon.

 

What has that got to do with Iraq?

 

Many of the people in Hussein home town were Kurdish and some of his broader family had Kurdish ties.

Saddam Hussein did not really care about religious or locational differences. His only interest was staying in power. Those that threatened his position were ruthlessly removed.

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True. They regularly bombed utility sites in Northern Iraq prior to and during Sadam rule with the obvious "collateral damage"

 

Absolutely. Article I Section 3 Clause 2 states:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article01/

In this clause alone it achnowledges the white majority that represented most of the "free Persons" as well as the "Indians" (Native-Americans) and "all other Persons" that were overwhelmingly African-Americans. The authors of the US Constitution were very miuch aware of the diverse cultures and multi-culturalism that the United States was comprised of in 1787. They knew of the Hispanic and French presence (and, in fact, we were using Spanish coins as the common currency in the United States at the time) in the different States.

What many don't seem to know today is that cultural differences in the 18th Century just based upon European national origin were probably as diverse as we see between "white" and "Hispanic" cultural differences today. The cultural differences between Italian, a Dutchman, a Spaniard, and an Englishmen were far more diverse in 1787 than they are today. Just the differences between national origins from Europe alone established multi-culturalism that existed well before the American Revolution. The religious differences between a Catholic and a Protestant were dramatic representing two completely and irreconcilable cultural differences at the time. Today we'd refer to them as a single culture of "Christians" but that was far from the case in 1787.

 

Iraq will be another Viet Nam. thousands of american lives and billions of dollars wasted for NOTHING. Will we never learn?

 

This is absolutely correct and Saddam didn't allow the religious conflicts that erupted after the US invasion. He wasn't concerned with religion at all and was only interested in maintianing political power and was ruthless in doing so. Let us remember that Saddam was convicted of murder related to the executions of 146(?) individuals that were convicted of attempting his assassination presumably because it was established to be a kangaroo court acting under his direction. It was a political "murder" for which he was convicted and executed that had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that those individuals happened to be Shiites.

Saddam, as a dictator, was fundamentally imposing a secular government on the Iraqi People. His government was all about power that had nothing to do with religious beliefs.

 

Then why did UNSCOM say he did and wanted to go and find them and dispose of them, and in fact we DID find evidence that not only was he involved in WMD research but was creating even more deadly weapons and had the necessary materials to restart production at the drop of a hat. What evidence did you present that he had either moved them out of country or the had deteriorated while they had been placed in hiding. If you had hard evidence that Saddam had disposed of the WMD that UNSCOM had cataloged he still possessed I'd like to see it.

Yes when al Qaeda moved their war there in support of those movements which was a strategic mistake on their part and they paid a heavy price for it.

Yes and we successful won that war against them there, they made a strategic error in moving their main front against us there, it was to our advantage.

Only because Obama failed when he took over the process.

So your better plan to remove Saddam was what?