Irish bus drivers imported to drive Australian buses

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by culldav, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    2,729
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    48
    more than 60-90k?????????????
    why would you pay a driver that much? Lets be real about this, its not pretty much a no brainer job that you dont need any real qualifications for so why the hell should they get top dollar for it?
     
  2. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Messages:
    66,166
    Likes Received:
    349
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I would round it off at $50K.
     
  3. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2010
    Messages:
    11,570
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.

    According to the figure of 1 million unemployed due to a 5% unemployment rate would mean that of Australia's 23 million people 20 million are in the workforce or trying to get into the work force. That is an idiotic claim. Wasn't my claim.
     
  4. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2008
    Messages:
    11,481
    Likes Received:
    915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Looks like qualified drivers are taking off to the mining states to earn big money. The policy response seems reasonable.

    Weekend work, overtime will push up their wages and rightly so. But $50,00 nowadays in Australia isn't big money, if it was the people working on mining sites driving would be back with the buses wouldn't they?
     
  5. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    4,529
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You`d CUT their wages?
     
  6. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2010
    Messages:
    11,570
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Medium income in Australia is around $60k to $70k per year I think.
     
  7. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    4,529
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Can you show me where this was claimed?
     
  8. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2010
    Messages:
    11,570
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You do the maths.
     
  9. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2008
    Messages:
    11,481
    Likes Received:
    915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Given the imported drivers would have to find a place to live and pay for the other establishing costs needed to relocate, even temporarily, the company might find it difficult even in Ireland to get people, but good luck to them.
     
  10. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    4,529
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You can`t be serious.
     
  11. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2010
    Messages:
    11,570
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes, he actually said it.
     
  12. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2012
    Messages:
    4,538
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Australia Unemployment Rate

    The unemployment rate in Australia was last reported at 5.2 percent in January of 2012. From 1978 until 2010, Australia's Unemployment Rate averaged 7.11 percent reaching an historical high of 10.90 percent in December of 1992 and a record low of 4.00 percent in February of 2008. The labour force is defined as the number of people employed plus the number unemployed but seeking work. The non labour force includes those who are not looking for work, those who are institutionalised and those serving in the military. This page includes: Australia Unemployment Rate chart, historical data and news.

    Australia's Unemployment Rate Up to 5.2% in February
    Published on 3/8/2012 12:29:16 PM | By TradingEconomics.com, ABS

    Australia's seasonally adjusted unemployment rate increased 0.1 percentage points to 5.2 per cent in February.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/australia/unemployment-rate



    The number of people employed decreased by 15,400 to 11,444,000 in February. The decrease in employment was driven by decreased part-time employment, down 15,400 people to 3,380,400, while full-time employment remained at 8,063,600. The decrease in seasonally adjusted part-time employment was driven by a decrease in female part-time employment.

    The number of people unemployed increased by 16,400 people to 632,200.

    The labour force participation rate decreased by 0.1 percentage points to 65.2 per cent.

    The ABS monthly aggregate hours worked series showed an increase in February, up 21.6 million hours to 1,616.6 million hours.


    Government stats say, 632,200 Australians are unemployed. What is the correct figure - 1million perhaps? These Government Statistics certainly don't take into consideration the 100,000 's of thousands of homeless people in Australia who cannot claim welfare or be registered as unemployed because they don't have a permanent residence or bank account.
     
  13. Beevee

    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Messages:
    13,916
    Likes Received:
    146
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Having lived in England for 62 years, I didn't know that. :no:
     
  14. Beevee

    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Messages:
    13,916
    Likes Received:
    146
    Trophy Points:
    63
    So what you are saying is that you don't know why this is happening but you object to it anyway.?
     
  15. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2011
    Messages:
    4,296
    Likes Received:
    115
    Trophy Points:
    63
    What exactly is going on in Australia ? They are hiring the Irish, Greeks , American and Chinese .
    So far , Melbourne alone is looking for over 8000 drivers and now we hear other Australian cities are moving the same way .
    Is this linked with the mining boom and everybody is giving up driving for the chauffeured life?
    What is the Government thinking , and do they perhaps see this as a future export industry?
    Any Roos out there with some up to date information?
     
  16. ian

    ian New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    5,359
    Likes Received:
    52
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Rebel without a clue. Hes on the last bus to nowhere city and he doesnt even care what time he gets home.
     
  17. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2011
    Messages:
    4,296
    Likes Received:
    115
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Are you going to finish your poem ?
    i can't see the point of writing just two lines unless we are also going to hear the ending .
    What is going on about drivers in Australia?
    Has it got muddled up with Golf tournaments . ?
    You have gone down hill since the Great White Shark retired.
     
  18. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2012
    Messages:
    4,538
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Seems like you don’t comprehend written English well. The topic was about why Australia needs to bring over Irish bus drivers, not about the “Social Construction” of Ireland, and the first paragraph in my message # 24 expressed that sentiment.

    As for you saying I didn’t know “why” it was happening. Obviously you forgot to read the last sentence in message #24.

    If you have something to say on the subject that would be great, but don’t hide in the shadows or behind the curtain taking cheap shots like a coward would do - be man or woman enough to speak your mind and address the topic.
     
  19. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2012
    Messages:
    4,538
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    What would you know? You are a coward to the extent that you're frightened to tell anyone and everyone that you are NOT an Australian, but pretending you are one just because you have an "Aussie" flag in your member profile.


    Why are you so ashamed of who you are?


    LIFELINE 13 11 14
     
  20. Beevee

    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Messages:
    13,916
    Likes Received:
    146
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I like cheap shots as you made a point of addressing. If I want to make them, I will.

    As for 'social construction', I'm not sure you understand the Irish situation at all and your last sentence is an opinion that you don't support with any facts.

    As for me being a coward, that's about the only statement made that's factual.
     
  21. lizarddust

    lizarddust Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    10,350
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    For those who haven't read the article.


    "TO be sure, to be sure, Melbourne's largest bus operator, Ventura, is recruiting drivers in recession-hit Ireland because it can't find enough skilled locals for the job.

    Ventura, a family-owned and operated company, has permission from the Department of Immigration to recruit up to 50 qualified bus drivers in the emerald isle, mX reports."


    One bus company and 50 drivers.

    Links please.

    The article didn't say which part of Ireland the drivers will be recruited from. The Republic of Ireland, the largest portion of the island was relatively untouched by violence. So the above statement is false.



    To add,, it's not the first time Australian companies and the government have recruited workers from overseas to fill vacancies in their workforce. And probably not the last.

    Have a look at our immigration history. You'll find mass immigration to Australia aligns itself to boom periods. This happened just after WWII up to to the early 1970s, when Australian industry was booming. We had a very small population and just couldn't fill the positions needed to run our industries. Remember the immortal words, "Populate or perish"? Australia is once again in a boom period.

    Immigration from the UK, Europe and Asia has made Australia the great country what it is today.
     
  22. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2012
    Messages:
    4,538
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48


    If you think for one moment that Australia doesn't have the capability of filling 50 bus driving jobs without having to resort to bringing over 50 Irish workers, then you are just plain stupid.

    There has to be something underhanded as to why this particular "family owned" bus company cannot get bus drivers advertising the positions with a reasonable base salary starting at $60K increasing to $90 with penalities.

    If you people cannot see further than your own stupid noses, then I'm not telling you there is a world beyond it; that's your problem!!
     
  23. lizarddust

    lizarddust Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    10,350
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Instead of throwing insults around, why don't you contact the bus company and ask why they are recruiting overseas?

    Better still,, why don't you get a job driving buses for this company?
     
  24. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2012
    Messages:
    4,538
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48

    They are recuiting overseas for cheap labor, just like this

    MACKAY cabbies are being pushed out of their jobs by Indian drivers who are willing to earn less money to secure employment.


    http://www.dailymercury.com.au/story...-seats-mackay/


    I'm throwing insults around, because its stupid people like you who refuse to see what's happeing even when its right under your very nose.

    Ever ask yourself WHY ONLY the people from countries that have recently suffered a Global financial disaster (Greece & Ireland) have been offfered jobs in Australia? FFS, wake up and smell the roses. Some of these people are financially "hard-up" and will work for any wage and conditions if it means a better lifestyle than where they are.

    This of course DOESN'T help Australians.
     
  25. lizarddust

    lizarddust Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2010
    Messages:
    10,350
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Time for you to read terms of service and rules.
     

Share This Page