Is a libertarian is essentially a slow conservative?

You know there are far left-leaning libertarians right?

It's important that you know this...

 

No you are insisting on phony definitions for that you are to blame.

you didn't say much to begin with. You typed a bunch of words that I can sum up as the argument "nuh uh."

pretending your opponent doesn't understand your basic derivative arguments because they don't agree is underserved arrogance.

Basics of what? Dressing up derivative arguments with way too much word?

 

There's a massive literature into neoliberalism. You've seen the word 'liberal' and assumed I was referring to the Democrats. That wasn't cunning! Unless you get the basic definitions rights, you're really not going to participate in the debate.

What you should be stating is that somehow neoliberalism is a success and that we can celebrate the American libertarians for that success. No need to thank me!

 

that may be, but it doesn't apply to the authoritarian left. They aren't classical liberals they aren't modern liberals, they aren't neoliberal. They are regressive authoritarian.

No, I see the word liberal as what it means. The root word "liber" to mean free. Huge massive government control which is what Democrats and Republicans want us the opposite of free.

debate is useless and only for the pig headed and arrogant. I discuss. You are too pigheaded to hold a discussion hence all you do is debate.

Neoliberalism for you seems to be a propagandist term to disguise authoritarianism as liberal.

You can fool yourself all you wish.

 

You're still struggling? I'm not supporting neoliberalism; I am condemning it. I'm condemning it as, despite the 'free market economics' used as justification, it actually increases coercion. The fake libertarians aren't 'classical liberal'. They are simply coughing up neoliberalism and therefore guaranteeing a hypocritical position.

 

no, I saw right through your smoke screen in the beginning.

And I view it as a smoke screen.

I don't know of fake librarians.

these so called "fake libertarians" that exist only within your mind?

 

Given you've got everything wrong, forgive me for not believing you. Someone who is ultimately supporting neoliberalism is embracing coercion. By definition, they cannot be libertarian. Thus, the fake tag.

 

live in whatever fantasy world you want, I don't care.

neoliberalism again is propaganda. it's a way to say things that aren't liberal are somehow liberal now because it's a different time.

Again believe whatever you want.

 

Actually its a reference to how those supposedly adopting 'classical liberalism' have 'unfortunately' engineered greater coercion.

 

With the Illuminati to trick people into getting vaccines...lol

 

You're not making sense again. This is about the reality of market fundamentalism. We know that neither laissez-faire or perfect competition are achievable. We also know that those pretending otherwise, typically pretending the 'classical liberal' tag, have actually increased economic coercion and therefore harmed individualism.

 

I imagine that's what people say when they encounter somebody outside of their cult.

well no actually it's really about politics.

you and that mouse in your pocket?

And if they're putting chemicals in the water to make the frogs gay.

 

Given you've given up on any attempt to make sense, I'll take that as tacit acceptance that you haven't got a counter. Next time make sure you know basic definitions (so you don't make such crass error!)

 

You really haven't supported any of your assertions. So all I'm doing is counting them with the exact amount support.

But you can blame me to save face

Translating: agree with your opinion or be wrong.

 

So is it 1945 or 1789? LOL you can't even keep your stories straight but that is par for the course for progressives/social conservatives like you. You lie so much and so often that its a reflex.

 

Dunning-Kruger Effect duly noted and effectively disqualifies any further participation as being fruitless.

Have a nice day!

 

Individuals perish without society ergo participation is a evolutionary survival trait.

 

Y'all stop trying to label everyone to fit your preconceived ideas.

 

You do realise there is a world out there don't you? You been caught out peddling an untruth. Libertarian goes back, at the very least, to the 18th century. Even if you wanted to be insular and refer to US politics, it goes back to 1945.

 

To what person(s) or event are you linking it to 1945? I am not finding that information.

 

Quote from Simons: Libertarians would radically alter the private financial structure, economizing kinds of intervention and purging the old system of anomalies.

 

I was not finding that until you gave me that quote.
Thanks

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism#Libertarian_socialism

 

You posted about Texas having the worst WATER pollution which means you had to deliberately skip all the links talking about California being the number one polluted state in the entire country. You got caught in a deliberate attempt at lying and now you run away cause everyone sees what a fraud you are. LOL Run away now. HAHAHAHAHA! Liberals are so predictable they can't stop themselves from lying and posting half truths.