Is God competent or incompetent?

What smells is your useless replies.

I do understand why you answer in such a useless way though.

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DL

 

That would depend on who is judging and in what field of endeavor we are looking at.

Thanks for showing that you do not have the intelligence to judge your God. If that is your God that is.

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DL

 

God is whatever the given "believer" makes up in his/her own head, or buys into from the imprinting of the power structure within that society. But yeah, a religion that tells you you are phucked from day one just for getting here unless you submit to a male dominator God chain of command is not a religion designed to uplift humanity, but rather for controlling humanity.

 

Well put and accurate.

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DL

 

Clearly there are forces that are acting on/within the universe. We have the law of gravity, conservation of mass and so on.

Before I continue I need to define a term- Since at the sub-atomic level matter and energy become almost indistinguishable (convert one into the other)- I may use the term energy from here on to describe the matter/energy interaction.

We do not know much for certain but the one thing that we do know is that at some point energy/matter was organized in such a way as to gain knowledge of its existence.

That is as much as we know for sure. We exist- I drink therefor I am.

The forces of the universe that made this possible could then be viewed as "God".

 

Ok prove it! I can prove that man created God

 

See post 355

 

If energy could think and gain knowledge of it's existence, would it not announce to other intelligent beings that it is there and thinking?

Why, like the supernatural Gods, not that they exist, would it remain hidden?

We have neural nets in our brains that act like computers which also, in a sense, have neural nets of on off switches to "think", so please indicate where this energy neural net would be.

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DL

 

Do you believe in God?

 

There is no "IF". The one thing we know for sure is that energy did gain knowledge of its own existence (or some combination of energy/matter interaction).

What part of - You are made of energy and matter ... and you exist and you know it ... did you miss from the first post ?

Somehow ... matter structured itself (via energy) into a configuration that gained knowledge of its own existence.
The question of whether it is the matter that knows it exists, or the energy, or some combination of the two is irrelevant.

Not only did this awareness arise. This awareness managed to manifest itself into physical reality.

This is a profound distinction. For example. Perhaps a tree knows it exists .. but a tree can not do much .. a tree does have some ability to react to stimulus but not much. It can not waive its branches like a human but still ... it does have some level o awareness.

Having a random assortment of molecules get to the point of "I know I exist/self awareness" is one thing. That awareness being able to manifest into physical reality is quite another.

For example: Look down at your the index finger on your right hand Now wiggle that finger. Good ... good job.

Now explain how that happened. How did the thought (wiggle finger) manage to make the finger wiggle ?

Sure you can explain that we are interconnected in a giant neural network ... but how did that highway get built. Or perhaps the highway was built first and they awareness came later. Either way ... the problem of how awareness managed to manifest itself "in the beginning" is a tough one.

Now ... the ability that your awareness has, the ability to manifest into physical reality, is bounded by your physical body. You can not make the table move.

To me if some awareness was able to do things to the surrounding environment that would really be "Godlike".

The weird thing however is that there really is no definite physical boundary. At the end of the day we are mostly empty space. The more you drill down the emptier it gets. The separation between individual molecular nuclei is actually quite large. Go inside the proton's and neutrons and you have more empty space .. inside those particles are yet smaller particles and entities - some of which are not particles at all but forms of energy.

At the end of the day our bodies are just concentrated globs of energy. Somehow this glob of energy managed to 1) concentrate to begin with 2) gain knowledge of itself/ become awareness, 3) have that awareness manifest itself into physical reality ... but only within the boundaries of this concentrated glob.

Obviously there is a force within the energy itself that goes against entropy. Entropy is the tendency to go from more concentrated to less concentrated .. from order to disorder. For example - if you fart in a corner the tendency is for those fart molecules to spread throughout the room rather than re-concentrate themselves in your butt.

This force causes energy to go from less concentrated to more concentrated... less ordered to more ordered ... less complex to more complex.

This is the force that created humans and every other living entity on the planet. In order for this force to "announce itself" it would have to be aware of its own existence. Perhaps God is not aware of its own existence ?

Perhaps God is announcing its existence when you open your mouth and declare that you exist

 

What definition for God are you using?

If you mean some supernatural entity then no. Only fools go into the intellectual dissonance of faith without facts.

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DL

 

You did not specify that you meant that energy had created man as the intelligence.

If you would have, this reply would not have been required. We do not call ourselves matter or energy. We call ourselves human. A word you forgot to use.

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DL

 

A human is matter and energy. That was clarified in the post Mr. Semantic.

 

I was just following orders.

 

I must have really disturbed Lucifers Lair!

 

Do I need to send you into the swine?