Is it ethical to steal from hectomillionaires?

In reality, no one needs to have millions. Scandinavia taxes multimillionaires to a great extent, but they provide for everyone who needs help.

 

Says You?


I bet you think taxes = charity , correct?

 

I think it is obvious to everyone that no one needs luxury items worth tens of millions. This money can be used to save thousands of lives.

 

You do know thousands of people build those luxury items right?


What about them And their good middle class jobs?

 

You being disabled does not give you the right to trample on my rights, to force me to support you, to take my property and time and labor.

Asking for help is one thing, taking is something else entirely.

 

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

It starts with your post, take from those who have too much (according to you). Today its someone with tens of millions of dollars in luxury items, when those people are gone, you will claim that its the people who have tens of thousands of dollars in luxury items, when they are gone you will claim its anyone who has any "luxury items". Soon under your world food for 2 days will be a luxury item.

You will claim that everyone who has more than you has too much.

 

Of course, Communism failed. But Socialism in Scandinavia succeeded.

 

I do not know. I am not a Scandinavian government member. It took them decades to build functioning Welfare States.

 

The State has a duty to support citizens in need and a right to levy taxes.

 

Scale matters, because the larger the scale, the more dissent in the people. And the larger scale magnifies the problems of communism and socialism.

It took communism 80 years to collapse when applied to a "nation" of 290,000,000 spanning multiple highly diverse cultures. The much smaller Cuba has been around nearly 60 years and despite its suffering people may continue for much longer.

If you go small enough, you can compose a small group of people living in a commune who are determined to live under socialism/communism, and they will embrace it. But only dedicated individuals will join that community, dissenters will be evicted or will leave voluntarily. And people will have a choice. On a scale such as the USA or USSR< people do not have a choice.

Scandinavia has a tiny population and tiny GDP, the problems of socialism are easier to deal with in such a tiny place. But Scandinavia is having problems, its not the utopia you seem to think it is.

 

I hope USA will be able to work out a Welfare State like Scandinavia. I believe the right to support is a Fundamental Human Right.

 

Wrong. The State has only the duties allowed it by the people. The State has no rights. In the USA, under the Constitution, there is the rule of law and property rights and those basic principles disallow your statement - and because the Constitution has been violated and abused does not change that fact.

And define "need". You clearly have no need, you have the means to post on this forum, therefore you have the means to get a job and support yourself.

And before you get back to your "problems", I don't care. I know people who have real problems - lost limbs, brain damage, a Vietnam vet who was exposed to agent orange and has suffered horribly for decades - and they don't sit on their butts whining and demanding the govt provide for them.

 

You believe wrongly.

What you claim to believe is the right to walk up to me, stick a gun in my face, and take whatever you want. But you use the govt to do your dirty work. Its still theft, and thieves steal.

 

I am among the 44 Mildly Disabled US citizens. They are among the 10 million Severely Disabled US citizens. They should get much much more help. Sadly USA abandons millions of its citizens.

 

All citizens pay taxes. I have paid probably about $400 per year since my income is about $2000 per year.

 

That's not an answer, I like to know why you want to eliminate 1,000s of thousands of good paying jobs in this country ..


Norway ( 5.4million ) , Finland (5.4 million), Denmark (5.7 million), iceland (318,000) population combined is smaller then new York state alone (19.75 million)

So your socialist utopia would never work in the USA

 

I am a mathematician. The government members are experts in Economy and Sociology. Somehow they have built a Welfare Society.

Somehow a Society can provide for people in need and thrive.

 

One I still seeing you avoid my question, what happens to all the good paying jobs that make luxury products, oh I know your answer..they dissapeer and they go on the government dole..


All those scandavia country's are trickle up poor..

 

You want to use the govt to steal from me and everyone else, including stealing from the disabled who don't sit on their butt whining for a handout.

 

Irrelevant. That does not give you the right to steal from everyone else, including the disabled who actually work and support themselves.

 

For whoever owns the copywrite. Why do you think a song writer can sell their song to someone and make money. I do not predict qhat Disney will ot will not do.

 

No problem with copyrights allowing the creators to made money from their works by allowing a copyright, as the constitution state, for a limited time and this is done for the benefit of society to encourage such works being done not for the benefit of the creators. read the text in the constitution that included the reason for copyrights in the first place

Having copyrights for 70 years beyond the death of the creator is a complete ripped off of society and congress should go back in my opinion to a 14 years term that can be renew for a second 14 years term as it was the case when congress pass the first copyright law.

We have the best congress money can buy it would seems.

 

"Thou Shall Not Steal"

Anyone disagree?

 

Ah. Involuntary servitude, the antithesis of liberty.

 

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Lovely looking lady, I'm sure she's not an actress placed there to lend the message a certain sexiness. That would be manipulative.

OTOH the writer of this fringe, right wing Euro meme's not quite so cute.