Is The Only Way Out Of This Mess Deflation/Depression?

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  1. 19Crib

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    Prices will never be where they are again. They will come down some due to (deflation) in raw material input, but wage increases are baked into the cake. Also, cheap money is gone - another ingredient in the cake. Because of our leveraged economy, deflation wipes out your jobs because everything was financed on “old” dollars.
    Everyone else will hold their margins as long as possible until competition beats them down to equilibrium.
    This is why I say the poor and unskilled are the ones who get hurt the worst. Rent, gas, food, going up wages are stagnate.
    It will be ten years before we “feel” normal again.
    Todays news: Biden seemed to be saying he is happy about high fuel prices helping the crusade of global change. He should have just said “F you people!” (I suspect he got wind from in intern that he will be resigning in January 2023.)
     
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    We will see
     
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    The top three issues right now include border security, immigration, and inflation. That being said, their blame is that "Government is not doing enough" argument. However, that is a political issue, not an economic issue as i argued.

    Economically speaking, inflation is something that is outside the control of the Executive Branch. FED can help lower inflation by raising interest rates, but that may cause the economy to go into a recession because that is the way the market corrects itself. But then again, I see you failed high school civics and economics though.
     
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    For starters, I never said or argued it was "racist." Second, there are hoops in obtaining an ID, most of which we take for granted if you live in suburbia or have not experienced severe financial hardship.

    So, here is the proposal for you. You will have a 2-year experiment. Conditions of the experiment, no one in your family, your friends, your colleagues, or even acquaintances will know where you are living. You will be given a taxable stipend of $20k per anum, to be electronically deposited into a "Chex Card" that is associated with a national bank with locations across the US that number into the thousands. You will live in a one-room, cash-only, no credit check, no ID in the urban part of town that is not in the best place to be, aka high drug and high crime area. You will also have no ID or an expired ID. You will have a job, in which you are to show up for that remedial job in order to receive a said stipend. If you don't show up when you are supposed to or if you are late, you will be docked from your stipend on a pro rata amount. YOu will need to pay for rent, food, utilities, and transportation. And you will need to do that all the while trying to obtain a new ID by obtaining a birth certificate in person or using of computer in a public library. You will be only allowed to use public transportation anywhere you go, no friends, family, or anyone else you know in your regular life. Do you think this is easy given the conditions I just set forth?

    Plus, I can guarantee that the only time you will be allowed to take time off is either a medical emergency in which you must show proof that it occurred or an extreme family emergency like death. But again, It is excused but you still won't get paid. If not excused, you lose the whole stipend altogether and fail the experiment.

    Want to take the challenge here?
     
  5. independentthinker

    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    Oh Jesus. No wonder why the kool aid shelves at the grocery are empty.
     
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  6. independentthinker

    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    Everyone has an ID. To say otherwise is the big lie. Everyone showing up to vote should prove they are eligible to vote.
     
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    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Even your own party knows what's going to happen in November, hence why they are jumping off the Titanic in droves. They have adjusted their strategy to trying to save the Senate's 50/50 and losing as few seats as possible in the House. That's their best case rosiest scenario.
     
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    When it comes to inflation, Democrats took a problem and threw gasoline on it. And, voters know who to blame. To think otherwise is just pure fantasy.
     
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    LOL. There are hoops for absolutely everything. There are hoops for collecting government benefits. There are hoops for buying alcohol, tobacco, guns, and lottery tickets. There are hoops for driving. There are hoops for going to the grocery. There are hoops to get your neighbors to stop making loud noises. There are hoops to get an abortion in California. There are hoops in getting your kids registered for school. There are hoops in getting utilities for where you live. There are hoops to get and take care of pets. There are hoops to take a bath. There are hoops when people die. You need to get over it. Life is filled with hoops.
     
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  10. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you know it

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    then hoops for buying an ar-15 are just fine... right?
     
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    Cribbed from the internets:
    The “gun lobby” didn’t head his household,
    the “gun lobby” didn’t neglect to monitor his behavior,
    the “gun lobby” didn’t neglect to secure the school,
    the “gun lobby” didn’t leave any doors unlocked,
    and the “gun lobby” didn’t tell him to murder anyone.
    Plus he was a democrat leaning wanna be trans.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not sure how that applied to my reply

    I support the second, in fact I think even ex-felons that have done their time have their constitutional right to own a gun and vote - want longer sentences, that happens during sentencing
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    make ID free for voting if one doesn't have a driver's license, simple

    in big cities people often do not drive... poorer people also often do not drive
     
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    The left believes black people are like chipmunks playing in the forest all day eating nuts and fruits and obviously have no use for identification.
     
  16. independentthinker

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    LOL. There already ARE hoops.
     
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    If you don't drive you still have an id.
     
  18. FreshAir

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    if you do not need an id to vote absentee, why would need one for in person voting?

    everyone gets a voterid card, is that not enough?
     
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    what hoops did this 18 year old have to go through to buy two?
     
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    but is it expired, I tried to cash a check a couple days after birthday once and the bank refused me

    even though the license was still valid, just expired
     
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    No you don't. If you wash up on the beach, naked, and can't even remember who you are, you will still be looked after under government benefit programs. Your claims are just baldly false.

    In addition, even if one did need an ID acceptable for voting to get benefits, not everyone who is eligible to vote gets or wants benefits.
     
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    Nice attempt to deflect from the fact that Trump favors higher oil prices for the unearned profit of Saudi princes over the interest of the American people in lower oil prices.
     
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    No they don't. Your claims are just baldly false.
    To claim everyone -- even every eligible voter -- has ID is self-evidently the big lie. People lose their ID, or it gets stolen, or destroyed in a fire or accident, or any number of other circumstances can result in them not having ID. Your claim is just baldly and indisputably false as a matter of objective physical fact.
    And they should have to stand in line for hours because they live in a Democrat district where there are too few voting machines and polling places to enable every eligible voter to vote quickly and conveniently? And they should have to take all that time off work without pay from their minimum-wage jobs, and arrange for child care for half a day because that's how long it will take them to vote? And jump through any number of other hoops that just coincidentally happen to be higher barriers to the sort of people who vote Democrat than to the sort who tend to vote Republican...?

    Somehow, I kinda figured it'd be something like that....
     
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  24. Bluesguy

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    You are complaining that for a voter to have to show any effort is some kind of voting suppression and an obstacle and unconstitutional including simple and pragmatic voter ID laws.

    Again
    Can you point to me where the Constitution says that unless voting is absolutely effortless and insures the voter has to do NOTHING to make sure they can vote where they are trying to vote and must be coddled by the government throughout the process? That voting must be by the honor system.

    BTW I have heard of no one who was properly registered not being able to vote, where are all these people who could not vote because they had no ID's and the polling place was too crowded or any of the other excuses you laid out. Where was turnout lower because of any new voting rules?
     
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    We had the pandemic here where I live and in the 2020 as I noted on the board here it took 20 minutes to vote. What we didn't do here was allow judges or politicans to radically change the rules DURING the election without the proper authority to do so.
     

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