Is the UK government finally waking up?

Yes and no? Bush was a part of the hierarchy, by blood, so could be counted on 100%

 

What is this "hierarchy"? Do they control Obama too?

 

The shame is that the US prez is also some how King and God. In watching the place the Prez is given in the hearts of the people I am more and more certain we should keep both Monarchy and Church in situ in Britain. Like it or not, it is the natural, though now somwhat twisted, way of humans in large civerlisation.

If you looked as Prez as a simple politician the veiw would be very very different. I think you are getting there but please don't leave it too late

 

Of course.

 

Yes, of course.

You don't really think they are any more than paid figureheads, do you?

To do the bidding of those that are outwith the democratic process.

 

Before the last election it was said that 80% of Parliament was in the pockets of one Zonst organization or another ....alledged that is

When I saw Millibands' Pa was anti Zionist I wondered how long could his son stay steady ...mmmmm another soul sold.

When we look at who kept Churchill living in a large House with 20 servants whilst only having an MPs income ............. and also realise that is why we went to War and stayed at War and called the US into the hurly burly too ....hope is a hard old thing to cling on to, isn't it ?

 

Those links and info that I cited.

This is part of the reason I do not fully respect the self appointed Palestinian 'activists' here.

Don't get me wrong, I believe the cause of the Palestinians to be righteous, given that they are fighting for their very survival.

But I have seen and know some of the above activists, first hand, and many of them strike me as those weekend rebels, you know, kids that put a flag of Che Guvera up, and get into that, for a time, as it is fashionable at their college or uni.

There is nothing useful or sincere about people like that, for them, it is merely something vogue to bandwagon jump.

Then there are those who choose soft targets, why choose soft targets, and shy away from that which is front of their nose?

I 100% do not think that most of them even realise the sort of people they are really dealing with.

They are stuck in a time warp, thinking that their hippy style protests, and boycotting dates, is going to sock it to Zionist Jews.

 

look at the whole medicare fiasco ..............what a farce. Big Pharma and insurence companies rubbed their hands .....do you remember how Obama held back and waited for that one Democate to be ousted beore putting it to the vote ? What a bloody ( literally )farce ................ as our NHS is being desimated.

I was born before the NHS, I fear it will not out live me My oldest friend died recently, she wrote her funeral (lol) and someone read out her rant about the Gov and the NHS .................... as a beautiful young woman she backpacked alone through Iran, Afghanistan and so on. I was an 'imprisoned' unmarried mother at that time and thought then, OK you can do it when you are old ......no I can't eh ? Our Planet is made up of prisons now that I am free.....

 

Why won't you tell us who "they" are?

 

Who is controlling the president?

 

Yes, we have it all wrong. The levels we look at right and wrong are wrong, they are not one peoples or ideas or religions that are right or wrong ...they are levels of kindness and love and if you like spirituality which distingush 'good' from 'bad'/

But that said Israels' agenda is to be protested aginst. It is always the innocent who suffer on everyside of every argument ..we could philosophise about guilt and innocents and reconciliation but my blood sugar level is dipping ...I shall go in search of food. Later ................

 

Well, Don, you are not going to pin it down to a name, or five names, or something of that nature.

Think more along the lines of the tiers and layers that are not electable, or part of the democratic process.

Think of those.

That will take you in the right direction.

And it is not just this one.

You may have to go back close to 50yrs to find one that was not so.

 

Corperate, Armaments Barons and their backers the Bankers.

 

Are they Jews?

 

You can name any of these "tiers and layers"? You are not very convincing unless you can name names.

 

AF cited some, for you.

That is a good start.

 

Some are some are not.

 

Hmmmm. IMO - a disproportionate number, are .

What do you think ?



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Trouble is that as with Politicians and their Wars it is always the innocent who suffer so is it with the Bankers and the Wars they back, on both sides !

So we needs becareful sometimes. That from a background of often confiscated wealth, not being allowed to own their own homes, ghettos and so on came a few Jewish families to the system of Banking that we now have ......that others possess their wealth ( usery) so it cannot be confiscated ( simply put) and from the fear of being 'thrown out, moved on' came Zionism. Both are understandable but add to that the USA and its fixation on money, its God really, and the mix becomes uncontrolable and toxic ............ add to that War as a $$$$$ making machine for both and we are all in the (*)(*)(*)(*). They are glued to each other, it is a not very merry, merry go round.

But for normal Jews loyalty has got to be a tough one, things are looking precarious agin ..and since Hitlers explusion of The Jews came some 500 years after the one before who knows what th future is, especially with such crazy ones at the helm. Aggressive protectionism won't do it I don't think

What I mean is, I think, that it is just the same old same old .....they just have different names and poss nationlities, whatever, whoever they are .it is still, for most of us, Jew or Gentile the same old battle as ever it was.

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Now I'm not saying this myself just yet, but I believe the name is "the Bilderberg Group".

 

You know what else is interesting...

STILL people are saying vote for Obama, because Romney's going to invade Iran.

Like Obama won't.

I'm sure like consolidating massive naval fleets on either side of Iran, in the Persian gulf and Arabian sea, and completely encircling Iran in radar systems, and imposing years of crippling sanctions on them to soften them up like they did before they invaded Iraq, and destabilizing Syria, Iran's last ally in the region and the final stepping stone, and ammassing troops in the region outside Iran, I'm sure like all these things, the request to the UK to have a logistical corridor for military forces to move towards Iran is all just a coincidence.

Obama wouldn't ever invade Iran..

He's really a peaceful guy.. As long as you nevermind the drone strikes and all that.

 

They are merely one head on the Hydra.

 

As far as I can tell, there would seem to be a political realignment going on in British politics. Tories are becoming more isolationist and more economically moderate.

At this point, Conservatives and Liberal Democrats seem to be better options than Labour.

 

I hope that Scotland breaks the union, in two years.

Never again will the Tories have any hold here.

Besides, I prefer the idea of being a small nation, that goes about it's business.

Something like Iceland.

 

Scotland's independence seems inconsequential if they're going to remain part of the EU.

They would just be trading one master for another.