Is This the PROOF That We Have All Been Waiting For?

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  1. omni

    omni Well-Known Member

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    More dishonesty from the extremist right.

    Cons: "We need to have close to zero cases of election fraud as possible!"

    State audit finds 0 cases of election fraud

    Cons: "what!? It's statistically impossible to have no cases of fraud in an entire county!"

    The cognitive dissonance is amazing
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    He said that 1 year ago... your link does not have Barr speaking at all... I don't rely to much on people telling me what he says...

    Actually if you go to a real news source like fox you will find they have it spelled out..
    Please take your time and read it slowly...
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-doj-fbi-voter-fraud-2020-election

    ""The DOJ on Tuesday attempted to clear up Barr's statement, with a spokesperson saying that a number of media outlets have "incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud."

    Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud and announced an affirmative finding of no fraud in the election," the spokesperson said. "That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated. The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations of fraud as expeditiously as possible.”"

    Giuliani and Jenna Ellis
    "We have many witnesses swearing under oath they saw crimes being committed in connection with voter fraud. As far as we know, not a single one has been interviewed by the DOJ. The Justice Department also hasn’t audited any voting machines or used their subpoena powers to determine the truth."
     
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    trump single handedly discovered the evidence of obama's fake birth certificate, evidence that he will show us real soon.
     
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    Seriously? You've messed the entire point.
     
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    TRUMP'S JUSTICE SYSTEM LOOKED INTO IT-- Attorney General Bill BARR, and all his investigators, found nothing to the allegations. How could you have seen compelling proof, when they, with their much greater investigative powers than any civilian, could not?
     
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    Evidently because if he had any kind of solid evidence he wouldn't' be making a movie, he should be giving the evidence to the DOJ.
     
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    .... look under the Adam Schiff "I have proof of Russian Collusion" or the Obama "my administration was scandal free" pile of folders.
     
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    trump made jokes about a disease that was busy killing a million of his citizens. ha ha ha
     
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    ""Attorney General Bill BARR, and all his investigators, found nothing to the allegations."".. That is not true..

    Again try reading it real S-l-o-w...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-doj-fbi-voter-fraud-2020-election

    He said “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election," Barr told The Associated Press.
    The spokesman clarified it with ""“Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud and announced an affirmative finding of no fraud in the election," the spokesperson said. "That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated. The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations of fraud as expeditiously as possible.”

    We just had a "form" of election fraud or at least election obstruction between then and now.... We had the FBI coverup a laptop of the crime boss presidents involvement with his dope head son with shady foreign dealings, with a compliant Big Tech and fake news MSM.... all of which very well would have changed the outcome of the election.
     
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    That is called "self- justification," on your part.
    Here is more of it, below.

    That random collection of items, is not an argument proving that Biden is the worst president ever; nor is it evidence that he did not win the election. Just because a person voted for you, does not preclude that person from not being thrilled, by your later performance. In fact, even voting for Biden did not prove "approval," for him, in general, only preference for Biden, over Trump.

    The only thing that is evident, from your list, is that this is the regular, self-reinforcing prism, through which you view the world.
    But you are, clearly, saying that from within your own, Rightist bubble.
     
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    link please...
     
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    LOL, yeah, giving it to the BIDEN DOJ would work. :rolleyes:
     
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    Unless and until we start requiring all would-be voters to PROVE they are citizens, my faith in our election system is practically NIL.

    But nobody seems to give a sh*t about something that seems so fundamental.
     
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    Yes it would.
     
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    You still believe in Santa Claus too, right?
     
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    Actually, it would be up to a state AG. Read the effing manual. Geeze... :roll:
     
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    Oh, so that is the level of your argument-- playing the WOULDA- COULDA- SHOULDA Game? All right, here's one: if FBI Chief James Comey had not contradicted established Department protocol, by trashing Clinton, over an investigation which the Bureau had decided not to refer for prosecution, right before the election, Trump may well have never been elected, in the first place.

    Actually, at first, I had supported his letting us know this about Clinton, of whom I would never have called myself, "a fan." But then I found out both that this was FBI policy, to not to talk about investigations, that did not lead to prosecution, and that there had been all these troubling connections, between the Trumposphere & Russia, which the Bureau had also been investigating. So, to talk about one, that was not being prosecuted-- just to give us all a heads up, on who we would be voting for-- was condemnably prejudicial, without cueing us in, also, on the investigation of the Trump campaign, & its own goings on.

    Therefore, had Comey not played favorites, and had spoken about all the different people in Trump's orbit, with ties to Russia (and other foreign powers, in the case of Trump's military advisor, Mike Flynn, working as an undeclared foreign agent, on Turkey's behalf), there is no doubt that
    Trump would have lost the 2016 election. Such being the case, any of your complaints which harken back to 2017 or later, are automatically moot, since (with Trump not ever becoming President) none of it would ever have come to pass.
     
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    I was responding to the post. Read the offing thread.
     
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    And you happily compounded the original error. Do better.
     
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    And exactly where is the laptop... looks like the FBI may have misplaced it.... ooooooppppppsssyyyy... how convenient.

    The real crime boss Joe Biden and Hunter laptop story was a coverup by the FBI, crime boss Joe Biden who fed the complicit big tech and the "ever eager for a story" MSM to lie to the voting American people... Biden would have had to print more ballots than he did to win... it would have been obvious when 110% of America voted to get Joe elected.

    How liberal of you....Mike Flynn was never convicted of working as an undeclared foreign agent, on Turkey's behalf...
     
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    These people have much use for elections and democracy. They just believe these things need to not be corrupt......
     
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    Biden won because Trump was his opponent, not because there was a mass of love and approval for him. Citing his poll numbers doesn't advance your case because you don't accept that what he won was the "lesser of two evils" contest, not a popularity contest.
     
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    This is a known fact, which Flynn essentially admitted, when he pled guilty to lying to the FBI. So by the word, "liberal," do you mean "accurate," or "truthful?"


    This is just more of the same unproven, irrelevant nonsense, which does not respond to my post. So what you are advocating is that Republicans should benefit from any breaks they get, but that every Democrat should be under super- scrutiny, publicizing any speculation about them, even though it is unproven-- just as you apparently have come to conclusions about this Hunter Biden story, though it is still under investigation. In that case, you prove yourself to be a total hypocrite, if you criticize any who take it for granted that Trump purposely organized an attempted coup, in order to stay in power, even though that is still being investigated, as well.





     
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    You are running with a dirty, cheating bunch of politician... I hope you are proud of them and yourself..

    If the world knew that Hillary's server coverup up was not so much to protect Hillary, but to protect the messiah Obama's involvement and communicating with the unauthorized and unsecure server with some of our countries most secret and SAP classified documents ...Trump would still have been elected.

    If the world would have known that the FBI/DOJ, and both Obama and your present crime boss Joe Biden were both involved in the coverup in the fact Hillary was pumping the Russia collusion story to draw the attention away from her server story... America went through millions of $ and 5 years of an attempted coup to overthrow an American citizen and then a duly elected president by the US government and Deep State to prove Trump colluded with Russia to affect our election........ Trump would have been elected in 2020...

    When the world would find out that any Russian "dirt" on Hillary was from her own unauthorized unsecured server, not the claimed DNC presumed hack, and which even the intel community does not stand behind their own report... Trump would have been elected in 2020...

    ""But then I found out both that this was FBI policy, to not to talk about investigations""
    then please explain how the fake NYT published an article about the investigation that the FBI does not talk about ... take a side, you can't have it both ways... because that is the little game we have played for the last five years.... strangely there is an FBI "leak" to the press (that is never investigated to plug the leak).... the fake NYT runs the story, then that allows the FBI to talk about a story the NYT published ... and then we have a merry go round of FBI referring to the NYT and the NYT referring to the FBI... Then we get stuff like a Mueller report that does not investigate anything but starts referring to these MSM articles as "evidence"... and all started with FBI leaks talking about investigations that they do not talk about?

    And all of this for the hate of one man.... Mr. Trump. Think of the great things he could have accomplished if this big child's game by our own president Obama, Biden, Hillary and our own government would not have been allowed.... And they started all this on a private American citizen and to this day are still are trying to trip up this private American citizen...

    But you folks keep up the drivel...
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