Is This the PROOF That We Have All Been Waiting For?

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  1. Phyxius

    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    It's your credibility that was lost in a flaming self-pwn. Still haven't found it, I see. Maybe you should try following the billowing plume of smoke? 1584414800.0994-smiley.gif
     
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    I don't think anyone on PF is worried about who you think is credible. :roflol:
     
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    Sure

    at 39:52 of the video you provided, you will hear the exact quote from the WaPo article.

    The only reasonable conclusion I can make from your post is that you did not bother to check the video yourself, and that you instead made the assumption that the quote from the article was not actually said during the committee hearing. The Free the Vote organization who conducted the research does not claim to have evidence of there being any fraudulent ballots. That is not my opinion, that is according to the organization itself
     
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    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    Your lack of credibility is self-evident and utterly self-inflicted... EbxJ9.gif

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    Ad hominem attacks are the first and last refuge of a limited intellect that is unable to engage with the ideas rather than the person.
    But its all you have.
     
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    i·ro·ny
    /ˈīrənē/

    noun
    1. the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
    Example: "All she has are insults, the big stupid meanie!" cried the butthurt little child with unintended irony...

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    Well there you go... as I thought..... the ladies words were taken out of contexts.... Catherine said “I want to make very clear that we’re not suggesting that the ballots that were cast were illegal ballots” and what was conveniently left out was what that she furthered her comment with the fact that the process was abused....which was their whole reason for tracking cell phones...and showing the "mules" activity... that is the whole reason for the movie.... to show the activity of organized crime...in multiple states... proving illegal ballots was never their intention or objective...which was the point she was making... but fake WaPo tried to make it look like a "Gotcha moment".... folks really should not listen to WaPo cherry pick a single sentence out for them to actually criticize.
    Please take time to listen to the testimony and goal of the movie.... illegal ballots was never on the table.... showing the abuse of the system was..
    https://rumble.com/vyc0up-true-the-vote-drop-box-surveillance-reveleaed-today.html
     
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    You said:Here is the testimony... please show us where Catherine said “I want to make very clear that we’re not suggesting that the ballots that were cast were illegal ballots”

    AND YOU WERE SHOWN EXACTLY WHERE SHE SAID IT, but having been proven wrong you proceed to ignore it.
     
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    She said it to clarify they were not looking for illegal ballots... WaPo pulled that sentence out to make a GOTCHA moment... listen to what she says.... not what you are being told by WaPo what they want you to hear.. the WaPo's gotcha moment just got debunked....
     
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    As do all True Believers - of any persuasion - when an article of their faith is challenged, EVEN WHEN YOU POINT OUT THE PROOF IN THEIR OWN HOLY WRIT.
     
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    Yep, at 39:52 of the video you provided.
     
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    Yep.... as she said... they were not looking for illegal ballots, it was a non-issue.... the 2000 mules were. Yep... which is her reference in the next sentence after that WaPo chopped off...
    Like I said... listen to it all... no where in the testimony was illegal ballots the issue.... the organized crime that was going on with the mules moving ballot from ( 10 plus ) of the ballot boxes was... They did not even bother with tracking the mules that moved between less than the 10 boxes threshold according to a Dinesh D'Souza interview... he said that number of mules would have overwhelmed them
    This movie is about uncovering organized crime... not about illegal ballots...
     
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    Your initial post convinced me you did not bother to check the video yourself, your follow-up post now convinces me that you did not bother to read the WaPo article either. No, none of what you just posted was left out of the WaPo article. It's not a gotcha moment, the organization doesn't claim to have any evidence of fraudulent ballots being used anywhere. They've stated this, and repeated this to news sources they have talked with.

    Each state has their own set of laws on how legal ballots should be handled, what the organization has investigated would be legal in most states, but illegal in others. Of the swing states they have conducted their research, the only states where the practice may be illegal are Georgia, and possibly Wisconsin, however the ballots themselves are still believed to be legal votes. The organization doesn't have any evidence of voter fraud, nor do they claim to have such evidence

    Of course if I am wrong there is a very easy way to prove me wrong. Provide where the Free the Vote organization has claimed to have found any evidence of there being fraudulent votes.
     
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    The fact you have tried to take the lady's comment out of context is just a sad attempt to make a gotcha moment that is not a gotcha moment... the lady clarified it was not about illegal ballots... she offered it in her testimony.. it was not her response to any question.. your post and the sad fake WaPo try to single out a single sentence....
     
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    Does the organization claim to have evidence of fraudulent votes being committed?

    If the answer is no, then no I am not taking their words out of context
     
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    All you ever have is personal attacks.
    Its all you got.
    And we all know what that means, don't we.
     
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    That you'll entertain us with even more unintentional irony? EbxJ9.gif

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    Like I said. Its all ya got.
    And most likely all you'll ever have.
    Now you can hang out with the other no value posters just like you.
    On the ignore list.
     
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    I can only say -- :applause::applause::applause:

     
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    Biden is all of the above. Trump is a great American hero.
     
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    Yea we know, anyone who doesn't think exactly like you do is anti-American.
     
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    As this simple fact goes right over your head... evidence of "fraudulent votes being committed" is not the subject.? The lady literally, voluntarily clarifies, at the very beginning of her part of testimony, they are NOT looking for or verifying illegal votes.... she is not admitting anything....she was not asked a question... . she was NOT CONFESSING...she was not caught in a gotcha moment as you and WaPo imply. Listen at 39:52 to what she says, all of what she says, not what you want to hear.. she was there to testify about mules and ballot harvesting.
    If you do not understand what the 2000 mules movie is about and the interview was about ... please stop posting WaPo's misinformation. This whole movie and testimony is about organized crime and how the mules are used for ballot harvesting...... They used cell phone trackers to show the mules moving from ballot box to ballot box .... highly suspicious

    your edited statement you posted.. taken out of context of the lady's whole statement
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    I'm not denying any of that. Yes, it's true they do not claim to have any evidence of fraudulent votes, and yes it's true they have stated that they were not looking for fraudulent votes. It is not taking their comments out of context to acknowledge either of these facts. Everything you have mentioned is acknowledged in the WaPo article (which I do not believe you read before commenting)

    If anyone is taking the Free the Vote organization out of context, it is the people who claim that the research conducted by them is proof of voter fraud. The organization themselves do not make this claim, what the organization was researching was ballot harvesting, not voter fraud. Ballot harvesting is a practice that is regulated differently in each state, and is completely illegal in exactly 1 state (Alabama).
     
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    "I've got proof of election fraud! Therefore ... I'm not going to law enforcement. I'm going to charge $30 to view it!"

    Fleecing the rubes, that's the point. Dinesh is an expert at it.
     
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