Israel announces plan to create 2,500 settlements in Palestinian-controlled territory

So what. The apartheid regime still banned them all from returning home because of their ethnicity.

The law only mentions that it applies to Jews, so that means Arabs don't have rights to return due to their ethnicity. That is banning them to return.

Wikipedia has it as a source.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/racist
A person who believes a particular race is superior to others.

proved you wrong

Yes... your source of that apartheid regime downplaying what went on, whitewashing their war crimes.

 

-You- brought up the supposed "right of return", and so it is on-topic; either the right of return exists, or it does not.

Please cite a single UNSC resolution regarding the German right of Return to East Prussia.
Absent said citation, you remain wrong.

And this is not what happened.

 

The hatred remains because the Jew goes forth ethnic cleansing the WB to expand their Jew homeland. Hence the Israeli Jew is becoming more and more of a paria in the world. We all know that the regime cried wolf when the latest UNSC condemned their illegal colonist ways and said that the WB, East Jerusalem and Gaza aint part of Israel.


And it is funny that the same type of people demanding that Trump builds that wall against illegal immigration, fanatically supports illegal immigration when it's the Jew who with their guns move across the borders to thieve other peoples land.

 

Exists.
Glad I could boil that down for you.

 

Not quite. Israel offered Arabs to return, but they refused.

So are you telling me that today there are no Arabs in Israel?

You said SHAI is your source, not Wiki. If SHAI is your source, please provide the qoute as it shows in SHAI website.

According to Prof. Cavalli-Sforza, Prof. for Genetic Anthropology:

Hence, since there is so mush similarities between all the people in the world, due to the global migration and to the fact that human beings are similar to each other 99.9%, and only 0.1% is the difference, therfore there are no such thing as "races". Thus, no one and no country can be "racist".

Source: https://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page/magazine/article/?article_id=40759

I also provided a source that shows the same figure, and that was published by the State University of New York.

 

Yeah well... if you copy, paste and leave out all the context,.. than you end up with your typical right wing "alternative" reality.

 

There have been offers of about 10% of the refugees providing all the others abandon their right to return. So how was that every going to be agreed? It was totally schemed so that agents like you could make stupid claims like this.

 

It wasnt 10% but more, as I showed in my previous comments.

 

Israel never offered that all the Arabs were allowed to return, hence it's perfectly normal to refuse to accept that Israel gets to ethnic cleanse 100.000's of people due to their ethnicity. Nobody should accept that they get to be ethnic cleansed. But you apparently think it's okay if only 80% gets to be ethnic cleansed.

So are you telling me Palestinians can return to their houses because their can be considered Jewish under the right of return law?

Really? You're unaware wikipedia is one massive footnote quoting other sources? omg... lmao
It's right there to be found on the wikipedia page about the nakba.
That you haven't found it only means you don't want to try to find it.
Troll somewhere else.

So the nazi's did not kill Jews because there is no such race?
yeah whatever. lol

That source is not about that the Jews ethnic cleansed Palestinians. That source is about Israel post nakba.

 

Israel didnt evecuated all of the 650,000, but, as I showed you erlier, more then 300,000 Arabs left by choice.

They had the oppurtunity to retrieve their lands in 1953, due to the law. They never done it.

I dont need to do your job to back your claims with sources. If you make a claim, it is on you to provide the sources that back it up.

The Nazis killed Jews, but it doesnt mean that there is "race". All of the "scientific claims" that the nazis made was pseudo-scientific ones. One of the "scientific claims" of the nazis is that the skull structure of Jews is totally different from gentile, and more specific from Arayn's skull structure.
Hitler relied himself, among others, on Chemberlain's book. Chamberlain was Anti-semite British politician that wrote a pseudo-scientific book.

Still, that source is providing the same number of 160,000 that left in 1949.

 

What % are you claiming?
Or perhaps please provide the post reference? (this thread is like 500+ posts)

 

Does it not concern you that this doesn't make any sense?

I mean, how do you rationalize that they wouldn't take that up?

Seems like its everything they are asking for...

 

Please read comment #522- http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=493008&page=53&p=1067140813#post1067140813
Please read comment #474- http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=493008&page=48&p=1067133685#post1067133685

In those two comments you will read that in 1947 were in the Land of Israel 809,100 Arabs, and in 1949 were 160,000 Arabs. Hence, the number is 650,000 Arabs and not 800,000, and that's if you think that all of them were evecuated by the IDF. But, according to the same comments, more then 300,000 Arabs left by choice and was never evecuated by the IDF.

 

I'm not their mouth, but I can say to you that in 1949 the Arab countries, like Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon etc. their goal was to destroy Israel. That was the case also why the Arab countries before and during the 1948 war said to the Arabs to leave their houses and come to the Arabs countries, so they will invade where the Jews lived, destroy the Israeli entity and then they could come back, when this terrotiry will by under Arab control.
In 1949, the Arab countries still thought that way, like indevidual Arabs, that's why they couldnt agree to return to their houses, because the Israeli entity is illegal one that needs to be destroyed.

The same state of mind you can see in the PLO and Hamas Charters, BTW.

 

So they wouldn't accept offered property rights?

Which is what they were fighting for?

Which would give them rights to democratically affect Israel and thereby contribute to bring about its destruction as a Jewish state?

Your explanation doesn't stack up.

Surely in the many decades since, someone in Israel asked: "hey, why didn't they take up our offer all those years ago? that might inform us how to end this stand off"?

 

They were fighting for their "historically rights over all of the land", as they claimed (and the PLO and Hamas continue to). they couldnt accept the offer because for them this entity should be destroyed, and thus, acccording to the Arab countries, the Arabs that they called them to come to them will not come back to the land where Israel is until Israel will be destroyed.

The Muslim conquest of the 7th century gave them the rights to say this. According to them this territory is a waqp land (waqf= Islamic endowment land). Therefore, since this land (like the rest of the territories where the Muslim conquest went to) is land where only Muslims can rule there, any one else that is control and ruling there, the Arabs will refer them as "illegal residents" or "colonial power".

Well that's what you could hear from the Arab countries back in the days, and today you can hear it from the PLO and Hamas.

The stand off from the hostality from the Arab countries ended from Jordan and Egypt when Israel signed with them peace treaties.

 

You calling ethnic cleansing through terror and wiping out 100's and 100's of towns and cities as "evacuated". Whitewashing history much? And the Jew ethnic cleansed well over 700,000 Palestinians, only 5% left by choice, NONE of them were allowed to return. And that NONE of them were allowed to return due to their ethnicity, makes the Jew homeland an apartheid state.

How? The Law of return does not apply to Arabs. You quoted it yourself.
That makes it an apartheid law and why the land became "absent".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
So quit your whining already

Oh I sourced that there is such a thing as being racist. So it exists.
Starts to be just utterly trolling to deny every dictionary on the planet.

You mean.. the 160.000 that remained. Them Jews ethnic cleansed well over 700.000 Arabs, to thieve their belongings. It's part of the Jew believe. It comes down that Mozes orchestrated a genocide against the people of Canaan with the blessing of his Jew God so the Jew was able to thieve the land.

 

Source?

Means they collect taxes. Nothing wrong with that.

Not true, since millions of Jews lived in muslim nations prior to 1948 without any problem.

 

Please re-read comment #522: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=493008&page=53&p=1067140813#post1067140813
Please read comment #474- http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=493008&page=48&p=1067133685#post1067133685

If according to you right of return = Apartheid, are you saying that the PA is an Apartheid entity since they also wasnt a right of return that wll apply solely on Arabs?

Once again notme:
As I showed you numerous of times, The number of the Arabs that left by choice was more then 300,000 Arabs:

300,000 (at least) out of 800,000 is not 5%, but heck of alot more then that. Moreover, there were no 800,000 Arab refugees, since in 1947 were only 809,100. Are you saying that in Israel after the war, only 9,100 Arabs were left?

According to a 1949 Government of Israel census, 160,000 Arabs were left after the war:

Which means that no more then 650,000 could have become refugees, and that's if you are saying that whole of them were been evecuated by the IDF, which accoridng to what I showed you at the beggining of my comment is not the case, because more then 300,000 were not been evecuated by the IDF but left by choice.

Source'1: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...inian-refugees
Source'2: https://books.google.co.il/books?id...=160,000 Arabs were in Israel in 1949&f=false

According to a leading Genetic Anthropologist, Prof. Cavalli-Sforza, that made a research that helped him come to the conclusion that tere is no "races" disagree with you.

I dont know if you know that, but Moses never entered Cna'an.

 

OK - so the main thrust is that the Arabs refused to return because that would be a recognition of the State of Israel.
Is my understanding of your position correct?

 

Please read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
Where the amount is placed more than 700.000 Palestinians, of which 5% fled because Arab leaders asked for it. And the apartheid regime in Israel refused them all back because of their ethnicity.

That you are calling this as "evacuated" clearly shows your sources are all wrong.

 

Current evidences can ben shown in Article Eleven of the Hamas Charter:

As you can read, "Palestine" is a waqf land.The second paragraph explained that all of the territories that the Moslems conquered during the Islamic conquests that occur in the 7th century, and reached to Spain eventually.

According to 19 of the PLO Cahrter:

which means Israel is an illegal entity that must ot be destroyed. for more you can raed in the sources itself.

Source'1: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
Source'2: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/plocov.asp

According to the Arabs, once they will liberate whole of "Palestine", the non-Jewish population will have to pay the Jizya. Jizya is a special tex for non-Jews must pay if they want to live peacfully in Muslim Arab states.

Quite the opposite. The Jews in Arabs countries suffer riots against them. If you want I have sources for that.

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Once again notme:
As I showed you numerous of times, The number of the Arabs that left by choice was more then 300,000 Arabs:

300,000 (at least) out of 800,000 is not 5%, but heck of alot more then that. Moreover, there were no 800,000 Arab refugees, since in 1947 were only 809,100. Are you saying that in Israel after the war, only 9,100 Arabs were left?

According to a 1949 Government of Israel census, 160,000 Arabs were left after the war:

Which means that no more then 650,000 could have become refugees, and that's if you are saying that whole of them were been evecuated by the IDF, which accoridng to what I showed you at the beggining of my comment is not the case, because more then 300,000 were not been evecuated by the IDF but left by choice.

Source'1: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...inian-refugees
Source'2: https://books.google.co.il/books?id=...201949&f=false

Also please re-read comment #474- http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-us-world-news/493008-israel-announces-plan-create-2-500-settlements-palestinian-controlled-territory-48.html#post1067133685

 

Correct.

 

The Hamas charter is not form the 7th centuary, so that means the source is incorrect.
Besides... you find a terror organisation a credible source? Really? How extreme can a poster be?
Please post the correct source

They got a point, since the right of self determination was never applied to the Palestinians prior to the Jew ethnic cleansed them.

MILLIONS upon MILLIONS lived in muslim nations. That proves you're dead wrong.
Heck, they fled to the Ottoman empire to escape the religious purges by the Christians.

Just not true. As my source says, that is the Jew apartheid regimes narrative from 1948 to the 1970's that they left by choice. And even if that was even true, which is not, I leave my country all the time for a vacation. Always allowed back to my house. The Jew regime banned them from returning home to thieve their properties... since the law of return only applies for the Jew.

 

The source shows that "Palestine" is a waqf land since the Islamic conquers that occur in the 7th century, as I qouted.

"Palestinians" prior to 1948 were the total population that lived in the Land of Israel under the British Mandate. Hunce, the "Palestinians" are the Jewish, Christians and Muslims that lived in that area until 1948. Today there is no such thing as "Palestinain", or maybe are you telling me that also the Jews today are "Palestinians"?

Yes, alot of Jews lived in Arab states, but it doesnt contradicts the fact that they suffer riots from the Muslim population.There were also laws against the Jews in Egypt, for exemple.

Israel offered them the oppurtunity to retrieve their properties back, the Arabs did nothing to retrieve their properties. Furthermore that Israel offered Arabs to come back to their properties, but they refused.