Israel announces plan to create 2,500 settlements in Palestinian-controlled territory

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    BDS works
    White South Africans survived the shift from apartheid to democracy. Jewish Israelis will survive a multi-cultural democracy . Israeli fascists- not so much.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Give it a shot if you want, I'm saying that:

    a) it harms citizens of both nations,
    b) it makes war look more attractive when you have no trade to lose.
     
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    Other nations will quickly fill any trade gaps left by Israel's departure and few would trade with a pariah state- so it's really only Israel which would suffer, which is the intent.

    Israel cannot win a war against anybody but its relatively poorly-armed neighbors. It is way too small to even contemplate using its covert nuclear arsenal. Besides, once the USA stops arming Israel it will have nothing left but the peace option. It will be amazing to see how peaceable Israelis multiply ten-thousand fold as soon as Washington Zionists hit the buffers.
     
  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry to be away for a few days, moon - missed me? But I'm back and what do I see? So many fallacies in so few lines :)

    Tell me moon - why are Israeli exports rising over the last decades? BDS must be proud... yep. Must be BDS' efforts :roflol:

    "Exports from Israel rose by 1.7 percent from a year earlier to $4,722 million in January of 2017, led by sales of computers, electronic and optical products (4 percent); chemicals (12.5 percent) and diamonds (30.4 percent). Exports in Israel averaged 1437.42 USD Million from 1959 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 5848.30"

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/israel/exports

    As for "Israel cannot win a war against anybody", you people tried seven times already. Allah help you, if you try again.
     
  5. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    Fallacies ? You've concocted an invisible post I'm supposed to have made concerning Israeli exports.

    We'll never stop trying. That's the curse of the criminal doctrine of Zionism.
     
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    I already responded to your argument. Please re-read my previous comment.

    This source talks about Sergio DellaPergola, and there is no paragraph there that shows something about your claim about the number of the Arabs in 1948.

    The problem here is that I never talked about the Holocaust in our disscusion in this thread, nor compered it to the subject we are talking.

    So are you saying that not today nor in 1949 were Arabs in Israel?
     
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    There's no alternative reality involved with what I said.
    You simply refuse to admit it - in public, anyway.

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    You keep making this clam, and have yet to prove it.
    Clearly, you are either a perpetrator of a Big Lie, or a victim.
     
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    Israel has settlements in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria?
    Where? When did that happen? Do the Jordanians, Lebanese and Syrians know?
     
  9. stuntman

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    In both of the parts that I qouted related to the owner's rights, and it is on the owner's responsibility to come to the Development Aothurity to claim their lands back or to be financial compensated.

    If the Arabs countered with a proposal, then it means that the proposal of return of Arabs was presented to them, but they rejected it and the reason was that it is Israel solely responsible for the solution of the refugees.



    But even with the remarks of Israel, Israel offered a return of Arabs and a financial compensation for Arabs that lost their properties, as you showed here, anf as I showed here numeorus of times.

    The resolution of 11 DEcember 1948, as it is widely known as "resolution 194", was rejected by all six Arab countries that were parties to the conflict in question. The six countries were:
    1. Egypt.
    2. Syria.
    3. Lebanon.
    4. Iraq.
    5. Yemen.
    6. Saudi Arabia.

    All of which rejected the offer, thus I see the use of such resolution as no more then hypocrisy from the Arab delegation to use resolution 194, a resolution that the Arabs didnt accept, in their rejection of the proposal of Israel.
     
  10. Dutch

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    Well, you did say:

    "Other nations will quickly fill any trade gaps left by Israel's departure and few would trade with a pariah state- so it's really only Israel which would suffer, which is the intent"

    Any idea, why Israeli exports are not contracting but miraculously expanding BDS notwithstanding, moon? :)
     
  11. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting...

    Tel me notme - why do Palestinians who hate Israel, hate Jews, made an oath to never have any Jews living in Palestinian state, nonetheless want to "return" to Israel, claim they have the "Right of return" to Israel, and want to live in Israel among the Jews? WTF is wrong with them? :wall:
     
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    You tell me what they would have been without BDS. Early days.

    Besides;
     
  13. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good point, moon. I don't know. I guess, they'd be higher. It's a miracle more people do not boycott Intel, Motorola, pampers and of course, SodaStream :)
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forei...Foreign_relations_of_Israel_Map_July_2011.PNG
     
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    You have not commented about the relibility of using a terrorist organisation as a source.
    You have not commented that your source is not from the 7th century but from the 20th.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
    That has https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_DellaPergola with his book as source.
    /facepalm


    Safety is a totally relative theme. Prior to the Jews ethnic cleansed Israel, the jews lived in general well conditions in Muslim nations, especially when you compare it to Europe and their holocaust. And you're just trolling around the fact that I am right.

    Please respond to how Palestinians can return to their properties, when only the Jew got the right to return.
    So for you're just avoiding this. Hence I can only judge that you admit they could not.
     
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    So you're making up what I said in public, and assume what I mean outside this forum.
    Got it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

    The 1948 Palestinian exodus, also known as the Nakba (Arabic: النكبة‎‎, "al-Nakbah", literally "disaster", "catastrophe", or "cataclysm"),[1] occurred when more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1948 Palestine war.

    At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations. To this figure, the report's compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which "directly (caused) some 15%… of the emigration." A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases
     
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    It happened according to the UNSC.
    You think they made it up?


    Biggest conspiracy theory ever. lol
     
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    Well Dutch,.. as you know. When a Jew gets hold of land in the WB, than the apartheid regime takes over the authority of that land as if it's part of Israel. So it makes perfect sense that the Palestinian authority bans the sell of land to Jews. And tell me, when do Palestinians from the WB get to enter Israel, and take privately owned Jewish land, and get to keep it? Because so far only Jews get to do that. That is "kind of" racist.
     
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    Tel me notme - why do Palestinians who hate Israel, hate Jews, made an oath to never have any Jews living in Palestinian state, nonetheless want to "return" to Israel, claim they have the "Right of return" to Israel, and want to live in Israel among the Jews? :roflol:
     
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    I just replied to this
     
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    The Palestinians have offered citizenship to illegal Jewish squatters who choose to remain in Palestine after the Israeli withdrawal.
     
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    Why do Palestinians who hate Israel, hate Jews, made an oath to never have any Jews living in Palestinian state, nonetheless want to "return" to Israel, claim they have the "Right of return" to Israel, and want to live in Israel among the Jews?

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    Why do Palestinians who hate Israel, hate Jews, nonetheless want to "return" to Israel, claim they have the "Right of return" to Israel, and want to live in Israel among the Jews?

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    Why do these "civilians" want to come back to Israel, which they hate?
     
  24. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me rephrase to make it easier for you to answer?

    Palestinians hate Israel. Right?
    Palestinians hate Jews. Right?
    Why do Palestinians want to live in Israel among the Jews?
     
  25. moon

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    They are indigenous to the territory. Your incoming European Zionists are not.
     
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