Israel considering law to ban photographing or filming of IDF soldiers

I said their ideology was repulsive.

 

You said

So you are saying you stereotype all American Jews as being repulsively like Sanders but somehow you believe that Israeli Jews are different and so a good reason to put their well being above pretty much everything else. What is it about Israeli Jews which make you feel they have a different ideology than the left wing repulsive one you believe American Jews have and what is it in it that is so important that you go along with it being put above any other interest of the US?

 

Yeah, I know--all the American Jews who vote for Democrats (the majority of Jews) are dupes. You'll set them straight, of course.

Funny thing, antisemites usually portray Jews as conniving, clever types. You have them as stupidos led around by the nose.

 

But in Russia some of the main media sites such as the Moscow Times are foreign owned and blatantly liberal and anti Putin. Can we say the same for our own corporate controlled MSM, when they are the same ones who financially support the candidates for President as well as the Senators and Congressmen? Wouldn't the MSM then be an extension of our government, since they both would have the same interest?

 

But it is you who implies I should know perfectly well who you are, all based on your word? My assumptions on who you are are not drawn from your saying who you are, but from your posts

 

Yes, but unfortunately, it isn't everyone who comes equipped with the gift of self-discipline.

 

Ok ... I should have said "ideologically" most American Jews are like Bernie Sanders.

And Bernie Sanders' ideology is repulsive. His philosophy is blatantly anti-American. He wants to fundamentally change us because he hates who we are.

 

The Moscow times is read by few, is heavily hacked by Putin supporters and is often offline because of Denial of Service attacks originating with Putin allies. It operates under threat of legal action/oppression at all times. A noble effort but one of little avail.

 

What makes you say that I ain't? It's just that nobody here - or next to nobody - defends the ar5eh0les committing the crimes there. It's different with Israel, whose every act of un-human-ity is endorsed by a very vocal group of zionists, who don't post much on any other subject, anyway.

... And you defend them from evil me, you noble soul...

 

Disagree. I think he media is generally pro-Israel, although there is criticism of how Israel deals with Palestinians.

While there are people genuinely supportive of the Palestinians who aren't anti-Semites, I think many of them are unaware of Palestinian intransigence on important issues holding up a peace agreement.

 

He is referring to the liberal ideology of Sanders and the American Jews as being repulsive. This is his opinion and the opinion of many people - and they have every reason to express it as you have to express yours. You cannot suppress people's opinions without causing inner resentments.

 

Stop projecting Jeanette. I am not trying to suppress but to find out why someone has two diametrically opposed views on Jews which possibly you have as well and that is why you are nippy. I will however say that I find it concerning if you are saying as you say above that you find the liberal ideology of Sanders and American Jews repulsive and that that is the opinion of many people. I mean equating the term repulsive to a group of people seems somewhat hateful. It is particularly peculiar in a country which supports Israel so much because basically what you are saying is that a lot of American's stereotype American Jews and consider them repulsive and yet those very same people will put the needs of Israel above everything else. What I want to know is why. On the one hand you are saying American Jews are repulsive or saying their politics are repulsive - it has an air of hate about it and yet these very same people will put what they believe to be Israel's needs, i.e. the needs of the 'Jewish State' above everything else including justice and peace in the ME. That is a very strange dichotomy. You know the answer?

 

Are they really happy in Israel with Netanyahu's government? There were large and on going protests over corruption that weren't covered in the MSM press. But that's expected of our media. They will ignore large protests, and then exaggerate small protests in order to influence public opinion against or for a certain government.

Some say that Soros was behind the protests in Israel since he hates Netanyahu - so was it Soros or not? If it was Soros, then what's his angle? Does he want a more open and inclusive Israel?

I read something today about a corruption charge that concerns Netanyahu's wife. Is there some kind of battle going on between the judicial and the President? I really don't know because I haven't been following these things, but it certainly looks that way though.

 

Killing innocent civilians is never self defense. That's why I call it mass murder and barbarism.

It seems that the Zionists not only attack active fighters against their reign of terror over Gaza. They shoot almost everyone who seems to hate them. Regardless, if he committed violence or not.

A society living in peace brings violent offenders to court. Not so in Israel. They immediately get death penalty if they're Palestinian, much like in the movie "Judge Dredd". That's completely crazy. Obviously whole Palestine is a war zone if you're a Zionist.

 

So Palestine never fires into Israeli civilian populations?

 

If your neighbour from 50 yards away is known to be an armed criminal do you think it would be acceptable for the police to blow up your house in the process of blowing up his house hoping that he is there?

 

Of course not, but has Palestine never been guilty of this?

 

Is that armed neighbour who may not even be at home at the time of his house being blown up representative of you?

 

No, why would it be?

 

How would your situation be different to the innocent Palestinians who gets blown up purely for having a criminal who perhaps lives near by. The IDF just blow up blocks of houses where they think that the "fire crackers" came from without actually knowing that the perpetrator even lives in that area. In the 1960's and 1970's England had the same problem but we did not go and blow up random houses in Ireland

 

My point is, isn't the Palestinians guilty of the exact same thing?

 

Well no. Palestine is not firing rockets. Individual Palestinians are firing rockets into random locations. Israel collectively punishes Palestinians using guided missiles in response to the act of one criminal.

 

How do you know that it is ever merely "the act of one criminal?

 

In an interview Khaled Mashaal, then head of Hamas when being questioned about the killing of civilians said that Israel began this and that he had several times contacted Netanyhu to ask for an agreement for both of them to stop killing civilians but the Israelis would not agree. The person interviewing him who I think on this occasion was someone with understanding of the difficulties of the Palestinians pointed out that that still was no reason to do it. I think it is an extremely long time since Hamas targeted Israeli civilians. Of course when Israeli attacks the people of Gaza with her world class army, Hamas and the other military groups in Gaza do fire back as best they can. Unlike the Israelis their weapons cannot give precision, they just fire them and hope for the best. Given this it is interesting to note that in the 2014 attack on Gaza, Hamas killed 6 Israeli civilians, one of them a child while Israel with her precision weapons killed around 1,500 Palestinian civilians over 500 of them children.

Khalad Mashaal speaking in 2006

you can read the rest here http://www.spiegel.de/international...haal-our-people-will-never-rest-a-399153.html

Of course he was wrong about the West respecting democracy in just the same way as he doesn't understand the double standards it has in other areas.

Israel tried to assassinate Mashaal in 1997.

 

They have no regular troops. They only have outdated weapons like rusty Kalashnikovs and homegrown rockets. They can only use guerilla war tactics. Their attacks can never be as accurate as those of a well trained military force equipped with modern weaponry.

But it's still possible for them to win, even though they are much weaker. They may win because of their method of asynchronous warfare.