Israel forced to apologise over offensive Hiroshima comments

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  1. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

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    Well , you know what they about hindsight, don't you ? (wink)

    Our + the whole world's problem is that , we're all daft enough to continue believing /going along with whatever our political tell us . We just keep on falling for their convincing lies.

    IMO - more than half the world's problems/conflicts would to solved , it it wasn't for the stupidity/gullibility of the masses.
    During the sixties I was so stressed with other issues - I thought this monotonously repetitive - but .......
    it took many years for the penny to drop + for me to get the message :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhyiqGIJQus


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  2. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    Lol Since I didn't write or correlate the link, how on earth does it tell you anything about me.

    Objectivity is a difficult one, I know ...............tsk tsk
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Adolf Eichmann confirmed the gas chambers.

    David Irving, former Holocaust-denier, confirmed the gas chambers.
     
  5. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    And Ghandi was made to eat his words, a hundred-fold. See, it's easy to take someone's words as truthful. However the actions of that person are what counts.
     
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    How did they do that?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    There are dozens of hours of film available of Hitler foaming at the mouth, condemning Jewry, condemning anyone not 'Aryan', and the translations are accurate and damning. Sorry but your excuse is a feeble one.
     
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    Falena Cherry Bomb Staff Member Past Donor

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    Fair Warning.

    Focus on the topic.

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  9. moon

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    Never mind the details of the Holocaust, we are reviewing an Israeli official's condemnation of the Japanese commemoration of the contemptible slaughter of hundreds of thousands of civilians by the US government , along with the craven approval of its allies.
     
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    Ask yourself this. If Japan was in our position, and we in theirs... would they have done the same?

    I think it's obvious that the answer is yes.

    It's not a pleasant thought, but it's human nature.

    When war happens, it brings us back to the most base instincts we have as a species -- kill or be killed.

    The Japanese were the sacrifice that turned what could have been a full-scale WW3 with the USSR into a Cold War.

    I think it's pretty obvious that the only way humans would ever truly believe in the doctrine of "Mutually Assured Destruction" from nuclear weapons would be to see them in action. That's what we accomplished with the attacks.

    Was it morally right? No. Was it useful and ultimately the most practical course of action? Yes.
     
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    As I've said . he ' of another age . What is of more importance are those Jews - like many in Israel , who today foam at the mouth condemning Palestinians and stirring up hatred of Arabs - in general . The Zionists Jews who - in your words "foam at the mouth " condemning anyone who disagree with them and who dare to question the crap they are constantly peddling .


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    You have answered nothing; on the contrary you have studiously avoided referring to anything uncomfortable, or which you'd prefer not to hear. The only lies I have heard on the subject of Hitler and Nazism are from you, along with pathetically naive nonsense verging on the sort of fairies and rainbows, 'let's all join hands and sing' crap 60s hippies were fond of. Grow up love. Really.

    I have met and personally known friends of my late family who survived the Holocaust-Wlada Majewska who was instrumental in establishing Radio Free Europe, and Marian Hemar who fought with the Polish resistance and became one of Poland's outstanding post-war poets and playwrights, among others. Were they alive today I'm certain they'd love to have a few words with you to confirm the idiocy I read in your vacuous posts.
     
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    I've always wondered why the Palestine situation gets more traction than the various other hardships throughout the world.

    A lot more people are currently suffering under North Korea's regime than under Israel. Far worse things have happened in Burma and the Congo recently than in Palestine.

    Yet, this conflict between Israel and Palestine always seems to take front and center.

    I'm not a fan of either side in this situation, but I just find it odd how much attention it always gets.
     
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    Or at least we'd be better off maintaining business relationships instead of swapping emotional spit.
     
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    Serfin, my dear , contrary to what our political leaders teel us and what any normal person might expect, international conflicts has sweet f-all to do with concern for human sufferings ,. Keeping the ME conflicts going is to some , far more profitable than any of the others you've mentioned.

    Just take a look for yourself , what can our financial hope to gain from Nth Korea/ Burma /Congo etc. ? For now such conflicts are only reported -briefly - to distract attention from the skulduggery our financial elite are carrying on behind screens.

    We shall of course in due time come to know about it , when its no longer of any importance and our masters have gone onto something else.

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    Ghandi wrote 60 letters a day and changed his mind drastically and often. He was no pacifist not even at the end but Oh how the Indian Govs film, Ghandi, is loved and believed by so many. Just goes to show what propagada can do, eh ?
     
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    You were asking me to answer a spammers C&Ps for umtenth time and I refused.

    I am saying that we should re-look at History, if you find it stupid to wish for peace cool .................. if you don't think we can find answers in truth cool

    I could drop names too Snake .................
     
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    I agree, although I would extend these suspicions to those who often claim to care so much about the Palestinians.

    The Arab community hasn't exactly been very consistent in its support for them, for example. They seem more intent on simply using them as fodder against Israel.
     
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    The Palestinian situation is extremely important from the point of view of world peace- not simply because the neoZionists are ethnic cleansing ********s with hundreds of covert thermo-nuclear weapons- unlike anywhere else you've mentioned- but because they are challenging the very fabric of international harmony as enshrined in the United Nations. If they get away with crapping on the responsibilities of UN membership then confidence in the structure is lost and it will collapse. In short, I hazard a guess that if Israel is not contained and its expansionist policies brought to book then my kids , and yours, face a future of a divided world and all the horrors that will bring. That's what neoZionism will bring to your tomorrow.


    The ' arab community ', as you call it, consists of a bunch of self-interested tyrants in lock-step with the Western military-industrial complex and its financial institutions. Take a look at the ' Arab League's ' slavering support for the annihilation of Syria and its contempt for democracy in Egypt.
     
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    This is a picture of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor with Adolf Hitler in 1937, of course this is only speculation as to the motivation of these allegations.

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    They were friends as were quite a few people friendly with Hitler, the German Head of State, before WWII. Why on earth shouldn't they have been?


    He was liked and admired by a, surprisingly now, lot of people but that of course is all hushed up now ssssshhhh ...................... His and Italys experiment was interesting and had for Germany worked thus far. What ever we may or may not think about their ways of going about things Germany was by then flourishing..
     
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    Ah yes, 'Hitler made the trains run on time, invented the Volkswagen and the Autobahn'. Great excuse for tyranny, genocide, systematic and industrialised slaughter and his megalomaniacal quest for global Nazification. He was "liked and admired" until the reality of his ghastly criminal activities became subsequently known. At that point no distance was far enough away from him for his former admirers.
    Try again dearie; and, for your continued education, I suggest you read William Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Shirer was a journalist living and working in Germany when Hitler was in power. I suggest he understands a little more about that regime than you do.
     
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    I am not nor ever have said Hitler was my idea of heaven. I am perfectly sure I would not have been one of his devotees then as I am not now. That is not what I am talking about at all and you know it.

    I am asking was the War worth it? The losses including the lose of the British Empire and so, for all we agree where its faults, the World fell into more careless hands and chaos ....... were they worth it, that question is all I am putting forth. I am not saying as you are insinuation that Hitler was an absolute force for good.

    Also to say as you seem to be doing that the fact that he, as the Head of State for Germany, met all other important personages and had friends in high place somehow gives those people a sinister character is also absurd.

    I have read Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.
     
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    For what its worth, prior to the atomic bombings, the Japanese were willing to make a conditional surrender on the condition that they be allowed to keep the Emperor. Since we allowed them to keep the Emperor anyways, we should have gone with that.
     
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    Quite right - He was at much admired by many , up until 1939 . As head of state he met many other world leaders
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    But what our American friends need being reminded of is this :
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    How JFK secretly ADMIRED Hitler:

    Explosive book reveals former President’s praise for the Nazis as he travelled through Germany before Second World War
    A new book reveals President Kennedy was a secret admirer of the Nazis
    Embarrassingly close to visit being paid to Berlin next month by Obama
    Comes one week before 50th anniversary commemorations of JFK's memorable 'Ich bin ein Berliner' speech pledging US solidarity with Europe
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    Kennedy's admiration for Nazi Germany is revealed in a book entitled 'John F. Kennedy - Among the Germans. Travel diaries and letters 1937-1945.'
    When World War II did arrive, the future president's father, Joe P Kennedy, strongly opposed going into battle with Germany and made several missteps that severely damaged his political career.
    He adopted a defeatist, anti-war stance and tried to arrange a meeting with Adolf Hitler without the approval of the Department of State.
    The reasons for this are unclear - some speculate he was eager to do anything to avoid war because he feared that American capitalism - which he profited from - would not survive the country’s entry into the conflict.
    In his role as US ambassador to Britain he also opposed providing the UK with military and economic aid.
    He said in an interview 'Democracy is finished in England. It may be here [in the US].

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    'Fascism' wrote the youthful president-to-be in one. 'The right thing for Germany.'
    In another; 'What are the evils of fascism compared to communism?'
    And on August 21, 1937 - two years before the war that would claim 50 million lives broke out - he wrote: 'The Germans really are too good - therefore people have ganged up on them to protect themselves.'


    And in a line which seems directly plugged into the racial superiority line plugged by the Third Reich he wrote after travelling through the Rhineland: 'The Nordic races certainly seem to be superior to the Romans.'

    Other musings concern how great the autobahns were - 'the best roads in the world' - and how, having visited Hitler's Bavarian holiday home in Berchtesgaden and the tea house built on top of the mountain for him.

    He declared; 'Who has visited these two places can easily imagine how Hitler will emerge from the hatred currently surrounding him to emerge in a few years as one of the most important personalities that ever lived.'

    by JFK


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Nazis-travelled-Germany-Second-World-War.html

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