Israel forced to apologise over offensive Hiroshima comments

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  1. Marlowe

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    Yes , if your leaders had te moral values which the people expect , they should have ended the war earlier , but they'd already spent to much testing + perfecting the Atomic Bomb , they had to grab the opportunity of using it + displaying their military might. That's the Ugly American for you.

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    North Korea has nuclear weapons too, and their leader is a quite a bit less negotiable than Israel's.

    I disagree about the ramifications as well. What Israel is doing really isn't that different from what every permanent member on the UN Security Council is doing. They each very selectively support the rules to fit their agendas.

    In short, the UN is a joke to begin with, because it's very rare that the majority of the world's major powers agree on anything.

    World peace is a pipe dream. A more realistic goal is simply reducing conflicts or containing them.

    Agreed, although I'd say the root of many Middle Eastern conflicts goes back before Western involvement. The feud between Sunnis and Shiites goes back several centuries. It doesn't look like it's going to end anytime soon.
     
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    I agree with the interpretation that it wasn't really about the Emperor.

    However, another possible reason why we kept the Emperor in place is because we didn't want to add insult to injury. The nukings themselves likely broke the spirit of the Japanese, which is really what we were aiming for.

    The Emperor became inconsequential after our thorough domination of Japan and the intimidation of the Soviets.

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    Correction: That's ugly humanity.

    No major world power is "moral." That's just what they sell to the masses.
     
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    What rubbish. No Nazis exist to be too admiring of these days. How does this possibly touch President Obama?

    In stretching a mile to try to smear the President, the Daily Mail is embarrassingly close to being Fox News.
     
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    Please make sure to use the quote function correctly.
     
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    Quote brackets have to be applied correctly.
     
  8. Marlowe

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    Tut-tut . , now let's go around blaming the whole of humanity/humankind - for the failings/evil deeds , of some devious b'stards , wot ?

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    Power corrupts. You give a human the power to run a country with a top tier military, and this is what happens usually.

    I'm not blaming all of humanity in a literal sense. I'm blaming human nature.
     
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    Would you blame a Lion/Tiger - crocodile or serpent , acting according to its nature ?

    I'm blaming the BIG fellow , the creator.. where imo - the Buck stops .

    One thing we can be certain of , , my dear , it has ALL - everything that we witness today , has happened before now and its repetition shall continue to do so - under another guise- long - LONG - after you and I , are no more.


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    duplicate deleted .....by marlowe
     
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    Fighting against an evil dictator who threatens the world is always worth doing.
     
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    Well yeah, although I don't believe there is a creator. At least, it's not really something that can be anthropomorphized as religion does.
     
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    Your take in this has been that it was right the World attacked Hitler because Hitler invaded Poland, so I ask you, how did The Worlds attack on Hitler help Poland?
     
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    Hitler attacked Europe and the world responded.
     
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    Nor do I, but we're a minority - out voted by the majority who seem to justify all their criminal activities - claiming to be acting according to the wishes /full filling their creator's promises/ acting in accordance with He's/Her wishes.

    Its always done "for the LOve of their Gawd"

    Read your dollar bills , does it still say "In God we Trust "?

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    Not so , America and many others , like America , sat on the fence - remained "neutral "
    watched events - and after approx. two years , then was dragged screaming into the War by Imperial Japan -. REasons for Pearl Harbour is quite complex and a subject of dispute. Not quite as simple as the simple-minded have been made to believe.

    When Britain declared war on Germany the British Common wealth countries , like Canada/Australasia, India , seems not to have any other choice but to follow suit.
    While most ant-British Americans watched the Bltzkrieg and British cities being bombed for two years before America was reluctantly dragged into the war.

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    neutral my ass.

    we were helping the British out with naval ships long before Pearl Harbor.
     
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    France and Britain responded to Hitler going into Poland, for that they declared War on Germany..


    Just make it up as you go along eh?


    Snake says we were fight to decare War on Germany for that reason I am asking, was it worth it ?

    Since the USA its self went unscathed apart from Pearl Harbor, which could have been avoided, I don't think that US citizens are in any position ever to judge the validity of any War because you do not know War as anything other than a reality game. US Soldiers are the only ones and they have choices.

    45% of US military in Europe in WWII had to be sent home because of mental problems ..................
     
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    The British only went to War because pressures where bought to bear, The French had probs of their own ...............
     
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    That the Duke of Windsor was a traitor to the Kingdom he had sworn to serve has nothing whatsoever to do with the allegiances of the 'UK contingent' to whom you refer on this board.
     
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    He was in high status and a leader of sorts in the UK, just surmising a reasonable conclusion to his contingency of the English, not on this board specifically.
     
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    He was rather more than a leader of sorts - he was the as yet uncrowned King of England. Which made his alleged plotting with the Nazis all the more reprehensible, and I understand he had no British contingent after that. To judge the British in general, and the British contingent on this board, by the actions of a long dead Royal traitor is not entirely reasonable.
     
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    The definition of what is ‘Criminal’ really what it boils down to a question of ‘morals’ which most laws are based. So with that in mind what you may understand as criminal I, as may see as morally correct, and of course vice-versa. Everyone knows that, right? Yes however precious few really know, i.e. UNDERSTAND on a deep level that concept. So , sadly for the minority despite laws in the USA to protect the minority, reality is defined by the MAJORITY, at least as a general rule.

    Correction; substitute the word 'claiming' with 'ARE', lol...

    The above is a good example of a ‘blanket statement’, therefore an it’s invalid rebuttal/statement. The use of ‘Gawd’ while a mild insult is meant to illicit an flammable* response from the religious members and may be used to disrupt the debate. So in addition to the above the reply is unethical whether it’s a violation or infraction is in the realm of our mods.

    flammable* = as in what happens when lightning strikes a pile of ....stuff, (lol)

    Read em’? Those notes are worth about eight pennies now. They are so repulsive to me that I detest looking at them. Why? They lie. However for those that still trust them (I can and have been wrong in matters of money, love, dogs, life, ...ahhh'....) .... ANYWAY; I will trade you three of those paper dollars for every quarter you give me minted between 1932 and 1964. Well until my paper money runs out, um' so I will give you alls up to 20k in paper dollars, hurry come and get your fiat currency…wait! I will take a loan on the house so if anyone has a really big pile of quarters...

    I almost forgot.... to answer your question; Who knows? Who cares?


    God bless this forum and the world ~


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    He had abdicated.

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    He was the ex King.


    And so what, The Duke was only one of many who were interested in the experiment.

    What did the World gain by WWII?

    Who did gain from WWII?
     

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