ISRAEL PREPARES FOR ANOTHER WAR WITH HEZBOLLAH AS IDF PRACTICES LEBANON INVASION

Lebanon was a largely secular country as was Syria before they were attacked by the US and Israel. Lebanon has a huge Christian population, over 46% of the total. Ghadaffi in Libya was no way religious and his country was prosperous with free healthcare and education for all his people.
Israel is now a more religious country that any of the above are. Bang goes the only "democracy in the Middle East"

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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/180440

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Why should the Palestinian be "lifted" ? They want to stay in their own country in their own property ,their families have lived in for centuries. Don't believe the rubbish and whining about "destroying Israel". That is just not true because Israel is the aggressor and it just serves to get a few more $millions out of the US taxpayer to "protect" the 4th strongest army nation in the world. As

 

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Great Post !!

 

100% False. "Death to Israel" does not come from Israelis; if comes from those who need to keep the Palestinians convinced they are victims so that they willingly give their lives to provide images and footage to be used to push their agenda.

Lifting them means focusing on education, medicine, science, technology, independence. (Like Israel does) You said it best "Why would people want to lift the the Palestinian people" Why should people care about them when keeping them angry and primitive makes them convenient weapons for the "Death to Israel" groups.

 

'Angry and primitive'...

How about angry, oppressed, victimized, brutalized, terrorised and devoid of hope.

That's how Israel leave the Palestinians feeling!

 

The anticipation is killing me. Israel, move in the troops and send those terrorists to their 72 virgins

 

Anticipation of what ?
More slaughtered civilians, more families torn apart ?

 

Than you for making my point.

 

Israel has violated the sovereignty of two countries to day with 4 war planes and so-called intelligent people wonder why their neighbours don't trust Israel. The "test" was only an excuse to cause damage and deaths in Syria. Any opportunity to slaughter and test their weapons.

 

The only people I have heard talking about it is pro Israelis saying that is what other people want. Please provide links to your assertion.

You said it best with 'like Israel does'. The two are not in the same position and do not have the same possibilities. They are not comparable. In the West Bank even with such a necessity as water, settlers get as much water as you and I but the Palestinians have to collect water on their roofs or buy it in general. I know in Gaza they put a very high priority on education. That was before 2014 though. I know there is a massive amount of mental health problems among the children after the last war as well as many with life changing injuries. They only have electricity maximum of 4 hours a day. Their one power plant was destroyed in 2014 resulting in sewerage in the streets and in the sea. Swimming in the sea was their one way of relaxing and that is gone. It is getting extremely hard even for people with cancer to get out for treatment. Obviously operations are extremely difficult and things like critical care including for the new born cannot be relied on due to a) not having electricity 24/7 and not even knowing when it is going to come on. The UN has said Gaza is not fit for human habitation. An education was seen as the most important thing, offering some hope of a better life but now most of them cannot leave or get jobs so there are some very highly qualified people in Gaza doing voluntary work. I read the blog of one of them during 2014. This is no way for anyone to live but education has a very high priority in Gaza and I think the West Bank as well. Another thing which interferes with the education of many of the children is spending time in Israelis jails. They also of course have problems with settlers everything from stoning them when they are trying to work their land , throwing them out of their home and taking it over (Hebron and East Jerusalem in particular) to throwing firebombs into their house.

Their situation keeps them angry. During the UK backbenchers debate on recognising Palestine, one MP said, 'Lets be honest if we found ourselves in the situation the Palestinians are in, most of us would be terrorists'. Racism sees them as primitive. I suspect you do not really know what is going on there.

Here for instance is an article which explains how it is so hard for them to make non violent political protest.

http://jfjfp.com/?p=94682

You know what Doofenshmirt, I think this 'Death to Israel' is a figment of your imagination. As I said pro Israelis do go on a lot about people wanting Israel destroyed but I do not hear people who are critical of Israel saying this. I suspect it is just another insult like 'your antisemitic' to try to silence the person and avoid having to reply. Have you ever heard Israelis go 'Death to Arabs'. What do you think of that? I await your links.

 

Why are their innocent neighbors building tunnels underneath civilian areas of Israel to slaughter civilians?

 

Neither Syria or Lebanon are building tunnels anywhere near Israel. You need to read up a bit and look at a couple of maps.

 

Believe it or not one of the best known Jewish leaders of Israel and it's first Prime Minister, David Ben-Gurion, perfectly explained why the Palestinian inhabitants of Palestine not be happy with strangers from Europe taking over their country and destroying their homes and villages.

 

And ben Gurion's simple solution to the "troublesome" Palestinian Problem was:

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying

us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done

with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion

waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive

them out!"

-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin

memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

 

You don't need me to post links to those vowing Death to Israel. You can google/youtube that on your own. (Theres even a song!) No reasonable person would take that as an insult.

One would think that the largest recipients of foreign aid would develop into a thriving society, but I can't seem to find anyone willing to do more than make long lists of reasons to stay the way they are. I feel bad for them.

 

Oh yes!! It is always the other guys. Didn't Israel kill Rafik Hariri in 2005?

 

OK so you are basically talking about people on protests. In the 60's 70's it was not uncommon for the American Flag to be burnt at British protest marches against Vietnam. There was even one time when they were concerned about the well being of the US Embassy, emotions were so high.

I did not see anything other than emotional rhetoric - that is anything which was a serious plan for 'death to Israel' and of course 'death to the US' seems to go along with death to Israel. These are just words expressing disapproval.


The Palestinians recognised Israel during the Oslo talks. They were willing to allow Israel to have 78% of their historic homeland and accept for the Palestinian State only 22%. Had Israel honoured that it is highly unlikely that there would still be those protests. Instead Israel has settled more and more of their land. Her current intention is to take 62% of the West Bank and leave the Palestinians in Bantustans without rights for ever. Antisemitism and hatred of Israel went down dramatically in the ME when it was believed there was going to be a solution. Antisemitism in the ME is political. It is not like in for instance the US, simply hatred of Jews for being Jews. 'Jews will not replace us' recently in the US for instance.

You clearly are a person who believes that non westerners are inferior people who deserve no right to self determination and should be colonised by the West, have their land taken from them and be glad about it. Of course your day has come. White Nationalism is on the rise in the US and that is mirrored in Israel as I pointed out in post 150


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ebanon-invasion.513853/page-8#post-1067973110

No people do well when they have been occupied for 50 years, do not have control over their own affairs, have their land and homes taken from them daily, suffer from attack when they try to work their fields, need to go through the waste of time and humiliation of check points daily where one wrong move can mean their death and suffer from continual attack by one of the best armies in the world which in the case of Gaza that and the siege has made it uninhabitable. You clearly know nothing about what is necessary for any people to thrive.

http://jfjfp.com/?p=94852

 

Of course Israeli Army is preparing for a war with Hezbollah. That is what any army does. It's either waging a war or preparing for one. But I don't think that Hezbollah millitants are suicidal enouph to attack us while Avigdor Liberman is in the position of the Defence Minister.

 

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Hezbollah are not looking for a war , even though they won the last one against Israel. They are even more experienced now after fighting ISIS and Israel /US backed terrorists in Syria.

Israel is the problem in that she keeps threatening almost everyone in the region . Israel wants a war so she can test her weaponry to sell as "field tested" like they did in Gaza and if the opportunity arises, take more land on her neighbours.

Israel can't think of anything only aggression. What about an army who wants to keep peace ? Of course that wouldn't suit an entity that has major expansion plans for it's territory.

 

Trump and Putin Are the Real Targets of Israel's Alleged Strike in Syria

Exceptional strike, attributed to Israel, signals Netanyahu can disrupt a ceasefire in Syria if Israel's security interests are ignored ■ Incident comes amid anti-Hezbollah war game
Amos Harel Sep 08, 2017 7:14 AM

The weapons manufacturing plant that occurred early Thursday morning in western Syria is a site clearly identified with the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad. The exceptional attack, which foreign media are attributing to the Israel Air Force, appears to be a message to the world powers that maintain a prominent aerial presence in the area. Over the past two years, Russia has invested huge efforts in saving and rehabilitating the Syrian president.

The bombing is not routine, either in its target or its timing. In an interview with Haaretz last month, outgoing air force chief Amir Eshel said that over the past five years, the air force had launched attacks on the northern military theater and on other fronts.

But most of these forays were designed to quell efforts to strengthen Hezbollah and other terrorist and guerrilla groups. This time, according to Syrian reports, the target was a government one – a missile production facility run by the Assad regime – rather than another Hezbollah weapons convoy destined for Lebanon. (Continued)

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.811078

 

Israel's always preparing for another war, of course. There are munitions to road test in Gaza and sell to various abusive Arab states.

 

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Obviously you have your own unknown for anybody else definition of victory if you think that Hezbollah defeated Israel in 2006 or any other year.

Israel is the only place in the whole Middle East where Arabs can elect their represantatives in politics. Let it sink in.

That is why the first Research and Development centers opened by Intel, Microsoft, Apple and other tech giants outside of US are in Israel. Because Israel can't think of anything besides aggression. Oh, can't you lie better than this?

 

Israel didn't win the war on Hezbollah, no matter what you say.

Intel, Microsoft, Apple are also in countries like Ireland so having branches in Israel is no biggie.

Yes Israeli Arabs can elect their representatives, then Israel finds trumped up excuses to imprison them or suspend them from the Knesset.
Yeah , what a great democracy

 

You are forgetting Tunisia. Egypt's coup of course supported by the US. Libya and Iraq, need I say more. I think the Sauds took care of the rest as well as being a major supporter of Egypt's coup.

 

Hezbollah fighters have got their asses kicked from a proximity to Israeli Northen border. So they were unable to launch another attack in the last 11 years. Good achievement for IDF I would say.

It is biggie that Israel was their first choice for openin RAD facilities outside US. And you are yet to prove your point that Israel seeks only agression and nothing else.

While they oppose existence of Israel only on words it's ok. But if they take action then they get what they get. By the way one third of the Arab voters choose not to vote for the arab parties according to polls.