Israel Steps up Demolitions of Palestinian Homes

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    You mean the empty wrecks that were left after the war ? some Druze chose Syria and fled there during the war, the empty houses became a warzone, doesnt matter if Israelis hid there and Syrians bombed it or the other way around, it was war.
    some Druze publiclly supported Syria and remained in Israel, most thou accepted citizenship and share our fate, 2 ppl one country.

    Tell the Druze that the Jews only want their land, see what they tell you.
     
  2. HBendor

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    Margot2 destruction of Arab murderers homes was invented during the 30 years Mandate period by the British.
    I just wanted to ask you to write something about Saudi Arabia (ISIS calls it arad el Haramayn) and has put it on its list of conquests.
     
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    Sunni clerics have declared that Al Baghdadi is going to hell.

    arad el Haramayn is about perfumes.............
     
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    I think it is Mecca and Medina... that Al Baghdadi emphasizes.
     
  5. Marlowe

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    Most Druze are not in Israel - in rough estimates place the number of Druze at 390,000 in Lebanon, 420,000 in Syria, 75,000 in Israel, 15,000 in Jordan, and about 80,000 scattered around the rest of the world, mostly in North America, Australia, and West Africa. The American Druze Society estimates the number of Druze in the United States at between 15,000 and 20,000.



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    Later, in Israel, the growing Druze population was permitted to exercise separate jurisdiction in matters of marriage and divorce, although the Druze had to participate in the same compulsory military service required of all residents. During the period of civil and political unrest in the 1960s and 1970s, some Druze protested Israel's annexation of the Golan Heights, and a minority of Druze was involved in violent acts. It was at this point that the rest of the world began hearing about the Druze from media reports, and modern misconceptions of the Druze as radical and violent emerged. Since the late 1980s, the American Druze Society has been involved in an educational campaign to inform the public that they are neither Muslim nor leftists nor anti-American.

    Read more: http://www.everyculture.com/multi/Bu-Dr/Druze.html#ixzz3JQuOklu5


    ... Just the facts - (wink )


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  6. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    So? we are talking about the Israeli Druze , what does it matter how many Druze there are in Jordan or any other place ?
     
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    Simply pointing out your incorrect statement saying :

    "some Druze publiclly supported Syria and remained in Israel, most thou

    Most
    Druze do not live in Israel. The Druze minority who did not resist / surrendered to Zionists thus managed to preserve their homes. .

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    see this : " Increasing numbers of Palestinian Druze refuse to serve in Israeli army .

    A recent poll conducted by the University of Haifa has revealed that the number of Druze refusing to serve in the Israeli army is increasing. It also showed that a growing number of Israeli youth prefer being jailed instead of military service.

    Only 36 per cent of the youth who took part in the poll supported obligatory recruitment, while 47 per cent believed military service should be voluntary. 17 per cent believed the current conscription policy should be revoked.

    According to the poll, 47 per cent of Druze said there is no difference between them and other Arabs, while 27 per cent claimed their situation is worse than the Arabs in Israel. Moreover, 83 per cent said that their life is worse than the Jews in Israel despite their military service.



    90 per cent of Druze polled said they held negative views towards the Israeli establishment because they suffer land confiscation and geographic siege similar to other Arabs.

    About 75 per cent of them said their negative feelings were because of high rates of unemployment in their community compared to the relatively low rate of unemployment among Jews in Israel.

    This latest poll by the University of Haifa affirms the findings of similar surveys; that the rate of recruitment in the Israeli army has sharply declined. While some placed the rate at less than 50 per cent, other found it to be below 48 per cent.

    The issue of recruitment of Palestinian Druze into the Israeli military has become a major public debate after the popular youth musician, Omar Sa'ed, publicly declared that he preferred spending time in prison rather than serving in the Israeli army.

    Another youth from Druze community issued a public statement explaining the reason for his refusal to in the Israeli army: "Because I am Palestinian, my morals and conscience do not allow me to serve in the Israeli occupation," Orwa Ghalib said in his statement

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/n...stinian-druze-refuse-to-serve-in-israeli-army

    Nothing about Israel is ever as simple /straightforward as you guys pretend it to be. (wink)
    ...
     
  8. notme

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    Yeah so the Israeli Apartheid regime is making innocent Arab babies homeless when a relative does something, and so applies collective punishment. Collective punishment is a warcrime. And warcriminals are a valid target to take out.
     
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    They steal the land by violence, by simply walking in and taking land and then getting the IDF to defend them. First you get the fake "archeological dig", then the outposts and then the settlements. Intimidation and violence, but you're right about one thing they cannot take the land away, which means it can and will be returned to its rightful owners!
    Renegade Jewish Settlers Part 1/5
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq1LK2qMwLA
     
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    What babies? .. and what collective punishment??
    a) I am sure if "war crime" fell on your big toe you will be at a loss to recognize it!!!
    b) If babies throw 'Molotov cocktails' at humans and cars, I would participate in yanking every darn brick from their homes for according to you it is not a <WAR CRIME>...
    c) Muslims encroached on Andalous Spain in 710 CE 718 CE and ruled practically all of Spain for 899 years, they were in fact kicked out in 1609 CE
    Emphasizing the fact that any part of the world conquered by Muslim is Muslim at perpetuity, the loss of Spain still rings bells in every Muslim' ear...

    Identical to Andalous your friends will eventually be kicked out of my 'Homeland' for you and your friends cannot live in propinquity with other non Muslim people... you erode them to death and then take over... We the Jews are not going through this Muslim 'desiderata' and in time we will kick arse.
     
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    Remember, please, that the Moors were brutally persecuted 100 years long and then expelled from Spain by the infamous Inquisition that has also murdered, tortured to death or expelled the Spanish Jews..
    And that they were persecuted and finally expelled just for (secretly) practising Islam.
     
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    The Moors were burned at the stake just for refusing to eat pork.
    Like the Jews.
     
  13. Gilos

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    So you read "some Druze publiclly supported Syria and remained in Israel most thou accepted citizenship and share our fate, 2 ppl one country." - and figured I meant to the Druze that live in Lebanon,Jordan, Syria and other countries ? how does that work according to your logic ?

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    That poll was made in 2009 - not 2014 as your link states,

    compulsory service is never viewed in favourite light by any gender or ethnic - its still what we do and doing it is what matters, it has higher motivation at times and lower based on many factors - all in all it has no bearing as long as ppl enlist.

    According to IDF numbers, in 2012 83% of the designated Druze pop did enlist, how many of them prefered to stay at home doesnt matter - we all prefer to stay at home.

    Comparing the Druze and Arabs that mostly live in the North to Jewish Israelis that mostly live in the center will show the same gap as comparing Jewish Israelis that live in the North (or South) to those in the center - most jobs and commerce is in the center, its unemployment and has nothing to do with being Jewish or Druze.

    The article picked the numbers it wanted and did not give full info as propaganda should be, I did find the original survey and from it - the term "Palestinian Druze" which you used :
    "According to the researchers, alienation establishment is also reflected in the question of identity: the identity of the Druze was in first place when -81.4% said it important to be largely Druze; Arab identity was in second place when -64.4% said it important to have people largely Arab and Israeli identity comes only in third place, when 59% said it important to be largely Israelis. Only 32.7% said that it is important for them to be largely Palestinians."

    google translate
    http://wordpress.haifa.ac.il/?p=912

    In any case the poll was done 6 years ago.

    Most Druze (in Israel in case you were wondering) accepted Israeli citizenship, join the Army, pay taxes and ARE in FACT our brothers, how many of them dislike the gov or want better lives for themselves is about the same as Jews do and I expect anywhere around the world.
     
  14. Gilos

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    No, the Shahid made them homeless at the same time he made orphants and widows, also, they dont need your excuses to continue to murder ppl, flawed and circular as it may be.
     
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    not good enough though to enter your pubs.....

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4595177,00.html
     
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    It was stopped in 2005 as it was shown not to stop suicide attacks but rather to encourage more violence. The only intent here is revenge on parents, siblings and grandparents. It is against not only Israeli law but International Law too. I am still waiting to see Israeli Jews homes being destroyed.
     
  17. Gilos

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    Your right, that bar incident really proves your point......., what is your point again ?

    - - - Updated - - -

    We'll see
     
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    My point was exactly what I said. You claimed that Druz were your brothers and I pointed out not enough brothers to be allowed into Jewish pubs. What is evident is the racism is Israel. Clearly your brothers but inferiors.

    There is no we'll see here. You are already going against Israeli and International law. You already know this does not work to stop suicide attacks. Hence the only reason it is done is for revenge on the family of the suicide attacker who are already suffering their grief just like the family of anyone else who has died. You commit these crimes only on arabs. Hence again showing the racism of the Israeli state.
     
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    You gave an example of one person in one bar, bar selectors can screen anyone for his looks, money, age, AND ethnics. do I need to give examples from the great US of A or from UK about screening minorities ?



    lol , "the family of the suicide attacker who are already suffering their grief just like the family of anyone else who has died",

    If I raped you and you gave me a sex disease , we are both victims arent we :)

    Here is what left from the bastard's house, I assume the walls are standing for the house on top of it, otherwise no reason to leave them. soon in other locations as well.
    4186593416.jpg
     
  20. Gilos

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    Oh look at your evil bastard countryman.........how could you!!!! your country is sooooo disgustingly racist!!!!!
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/video-sickening-racist-attack-glasgow-3158282

    Get the ficture drama queen ? we all have racists.
     
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    Why should you see Jewish homes destroyed?
    There was destruction in Gaza of all homes of 10,00 Jewish individuals living there.
    And what has this done to Us besides 6000 Kassams lobbed at us?

    Listen Alexa and I hope this would remain with you forever...
    This past century 21 Arab countries were <created> for Arab self determination
    and only <O N E > Jewish state... There is no way in this world, come what may that the Muslims will make our Homeland another Muslim country!
     
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    We are dealing with this issue and this issue is racism. You made a claim that the druz were your brothers. This Druz man was not allowed in because he was not Jewish

    same link.

    What is it Gilos? Separate but equal? A man can fight in your army and be injured but not be worthy of gaining entry to one of your pubs for one reason only, he is not Jewish. That is racism.





    Their family did not do the action. Good god collective punishment seems so natural to you that you can not see it when it is straight in front of you. One of the mothers had taken her son to the psychiatrist that day. Two of the killers, I think the car attack ones had spent prolonged time in solitary confinement, far longer than is allowed under law. People do not kill themselves even if they are taking others with them unless something is terribly wrong.

    http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.628038?v=FDB3D6C610510366B7D9076B0F88D6AA

    Yet another warning for you from your own.

    Demolishing the home of people who have already suffered the highest punishment death, is collective punishment and a criminal act. That it is done only to arabs, makes it also a racist act....but hey that is not enough for Israel. Now you intend on removing their citizenship/residency on people for protesting and throwing stones or firecrackers. Israel is acting in a crazy manner



    http://www.theage.com.au/world/benjamin-netanyahus-cabinet-backs-jewish-state-law-as-tensions-run-h

    More collective punishment on the families for as little as throwing stones they may lose their right to residency/citizenship

     
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    Totally different situation. Opposite to Israel racist attacks in Scotland get higher penalties and unlike you we do find people who commit racist crimes disgusting. That is why there is a higher penalty to be paid. It is not here part of daily routine. Next personal attack will be reported.
     
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    :applause: Quite right

    I also found this :

    Israel Druze protest against "state discrimination"


    Reuters) - Several hundred Druze demonstrators clashed with police outside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office during a protest on Sunday against what they said was state discrimination against their community.

    Demonstrators hurled eggs, sticks and bottles at riot police. Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said two policemen and several protesters were injured in the violence.

    Druze community leaders say that state funding for their villages falls short of allocations for Jewish communities in Israel. A statement issued by Netanyahu's office said he later met with some of the protest leaders.

    Druze men are conscripted into Israel's military and the native Arabic speakers are a prominent force in the paramilitary border police, often at the front line of confrontations with Palestinians. The Druze religion is an offshoot of Islam.

    source :

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2009/06/21/idINIndia-40489420090621


    cheers -:wink:
     
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    Claims of racism bemuse me. Isn't it a popular belief on this forum that Jewish and Palestinian ppl are the same race? Or is that just a minority opinion of some posters?
     

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