Israeli official admits to forcing Palestinians from West Bank

The occupation is not illegal. there is no international law that states that belligerent military occupation is in any way illegal. there are international humanitarian laws governing such occupations, but the occupation itself is not illegal.

Those same laws are why I say that the settlements are illegal as is the annexation of east jerusalem.

I find it unsurprising that such a staunch partisan would use these laws on the one hand to decry the dastardly actions of the Israelis, yet readily ignore those laws when inconvenient to their narrative.

I have always found that festering hatred easily blinds while murdering rational thinking in the process.

 

Yes, occupation itself is illegal. Why should violent seizure of somebody else's country be anything but illegal ? Occupation is an act of aggression. Israel's simpering plea that it occupies Palestine for reasons of ' self-defense ' has been struck down by the ICJ's advisory ruling on its illegal barrier.
Temporary occupation is not legal- it is not a state of normalcy- it is an unacceptable occurrence which must be terminated according to law as Israel's was terminated by the UN Security Council under Resolution 242.
Claiming that occupation could ever be legal is wishful thinking on the part of Zionist thieves and their execrable supporting profiteers.

An illegal act can never produce legal rights.
Occupation runs contrary to intransgressible principles of international customary law

 

Israel gained the land known as the West Bank in a war of defense, (I am mentioning this for the umpteenth time), and until a peaceful settlement is reached between the Israelis and Palestinian Authority, Israel has every right to hold on to the land and to build on it seeing as the Palestinian Authority are even to this day not purposely seeking out peace, quite the opposite in fact with their pact with Hamas, and with teaching hate to kids in schools and on PA television.

 

Total nonsense. I'd expect that from the Sesame Street International Law Club. ' War of defense ' is a laughable term . War is illegal. You've made another silly statement- " for the umpteenth time ".

There are NO rights of annexation due to war- NONE. Occupation is illegal and prevents peace. Israel has been instructed to withdraw to the pre-1967 boundaries. Palestine has been recognised as a State on the pre-1967 boundaries. Your tosh is debunked.

 

in 1967 Israel was attacked by Jordan in an illegal act of aggressive war. Israel defended herself. Israel's actions in the war with Jordan in 1967 were totally legal.

yes, annexation of Occupied Territory is illegal. But Occupation is not.

Yes, Palestine is recognized by the UN as a non-member State.

But Israel is recognized by the UN within the 1949 borders as a member State.

 

Yes, occupation is illegal. It was made illegal as a discouragement to violent regimes wanting to take over other people's countries by force.

Of course, if you can demonstrate how the law encourages the violent seizure of other people's countries then we'll all grow horns and cloven hooves and join you in the dance.

 

Read UN Resolution 242. In addition, as a belligerent occupier (legal term), Israel has a duty of care to those who are being occupied. I don't see much caring from the Israelis; on the contrary they are hell-bent on eliminating every last vestige of anything remotely Arabic from their 'promised land'.
Seems everyone (including the USA) except the Israelis, is condemning both the occupation and settlement building as illegal, obstructive to peace and blatant territorial expansion.

 

wait, now you want Israel to provide for the daily needs of the Palestinian people????

 

Yes, and all in contravention of international law. What can we do about it ? End the US Security Council veto.

 

Whatever they are obligated to do under international law, yes.

http://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/law9_final.pdf

 

The Palestinians have self-rule. That means they are responsible for their own needs.

 

The Palestinians labour under the neoZionist ' matrix of control '. Their right to self-determination is subject to Israeli military fascism. The occupation of their country is illegal.

 

The Palestinians do whatever Israel bids. Any concept of "self rule" is a fantasy of rhetoric.

 

fascinating. please, tell us more.

 

International trade? Freedom of movement? Right to return? Are any of these allowed? If not, then I suggest this absurd suggestion that there is any self-rule other than in the vaguest sense is laughable. Palestine is clearly under Israeli control.

 

Fishing ? International football ? An airport ? Baby food and medicine ? Cement ? Olive growing ? Judgment awaits at the ICJ.

 

no baby food in Palestine? all the babies are starving?

lol!!!!

 

It's not my idea of funny.

http://reliefweb.int/report/occupie...n-falling-behind-effect-blockade-child-health


http://www.emro.who.int/palestine-press-releases/2012/child-health-gaza.html

 

It doesn't belong to the arabs, not even close. When Jews were resettling 500 years ago it belonged to the Ottomans. And of course I know its pronounced with an F sound not B sound. Did you not see I just said the only arabs that can pronounce the P are Iraqi arabs? I used Pizza as an example because everyone but Iraqis pronounce it "bitza". Arabs pronounce palestine "FilisTeen". Similar to how in the conquests they invaded Persia and called their language (Farsi) rather than Parsi.

As for people being arabized, it depends on what you mean. Culturally? Everyone was. Racially/Ethnically/Tribally, the palestinian arab muslims especially from gaza are so mixed with arab and egyptian blood its not even funny. Other groups living there like Circassians, Jews, Greeks, Armenians are not arab in the way that the arab muslims are. Why is this so hard to understand? Its like the spread of the french language, north africans are francophones, does that mean arab or berber north africans are French people?

Jerusalem western name? It comes from Yerushalayim, Hebrew. The arabs were the ones who decided to rename it al-quds, I already know all this. You assume I don't know the most basic arabic even though I come from grandparents that spoke judeo-arabic.

 

The people were/are Arabs. The Ottomans 'controlled' the land by dividing it into administrative regions and collecting taxes from these provinces. This doesn't mean that the Ottomans 'owned' the land, or that the land belonged to them. Indeed, they already had a land, and didn't see the need to allow tens of thousand of Turks to settle in Palestine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subdivisions_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

The Arabs even helped the Europeans kick the Ottomans from the Arab region.

The Jews, Greeks and Armenians are minorities, and it should be expected that they conform to Arab rule, just as the Armenians conform to Lebanese rule.

I didn't say it was a Western name, I said that is what it is called in the West. It doesn't matter what the damn place is called, anyway.

 

Jews are now the majority in Israel.

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land doesn't have a nationality.

 

Thanks for the information!

Land has had a nationality ever since the rise of nationalism. The whole point of Zionism was to create a national home for the Jews, after all.

 

Enlightening wasn't it?...LOL

 

Even if arabs were the majority in Ottoman palestine, it was viewed by the arabs as part of greater syria. The point is 'palestinian' as an ethnicity was created after 67 by Arafat and his PLO. I mean in the way they use it. I am not denying that many arabs are indigenous to the region, but so are many jews. And many arabs are immigrants too, just like many jews.

 

sorry bro, but when land is conquered by an army, the land changes sides.

The Allies conquered Southern Syria during WW1 and the Allies get to decide what happens to it.

its called the Laws of War.