It’s None Of My Business If Homeless People Use The Money I Give Them For Drugs

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  1. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is estimated that as many as 50% of homeless people are chronically addicted to drugs, alcohol, or both. That percentage rises to about 70% of younger homeless people. These addictions are the primary cause of their homelessness, and mental illness is the second most common cause. Rather than giving money directly to homeless people, why not donate money to reputable organizations like homeless shelters, rescue missions, the Salvation Army, etc? Those organizations provide shelter, meals, warmth, and a safe place to sleep, but they need help from donors. The chances that your dollars given directly to a homeless person will end up in a needle in their arm are high, and you're actually making life worse and shorter for them.
     
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    No, it's all within the link I provided! Mind you it's not my creation but I feel their finding adequately express my views on the matter.. Curious, are you going to continue to fault and hound me for those that compile the data in the link? If so we really need to get this sorted out ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    I don’t think “educated” western white middle classes are intended to be the ruling class. Some members of the class like to think so but they are being manipulated the same as the welfare class if I’m reading things correctly. The fact their “education” is so lacking in areas of critical thought and practical skills, and results in almost the same degree of dependence on government as the welfare class, makes me think they are not included in the ruling elite. I guess that makes them the target as you say.

    Yeh, eugenics is too powerful of a tool for progressives to develop and then discard. I think they just honed an keener edge and carried on.
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    So you are against blue collar union jobs?

    What do you want to do collapse the economy's of the state of Washington for example?


    Only Democrats never think this far ahead

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    JCS Well-Known Member Donor

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    People can become rich because money is circulating. And why does money circulate? Because the 99% have money to spend on products & services...which then enriches all businesses, inspires startups, and creates more jobs. Happy, healthy people spend more money, which makes happy healthy businesses.

    If you don't believe me, ask any business owner what happens when fewer & fewer customers can afford their products & services (eg, when consumers can only afford to shop at big names like Walmart and Amazon).

    The circulation of money can be increased by simply lowering the cost of living by ensuring free education, free healthcare, cheap mass city transportation (I'd make this free), cheaper utilities (I'd make this free), cheaper communication tech (I'd make this free), and affordable housing. This is easily accomplished by (1) cutting defense spending & shutting down overseas operations, (2) eliminating waste/unnecessary spending, and (3) by expanding direct government job employment (ie, food/agriculture, utilities, communications, transportation, education, healthcare, science/technology, etc.)...because no business can compete with a govt. which is non-profit and does most of the hiring for essential jobs. This would also (1) eliminate the need for taxes, and (2) essentially transform the nation from elitist-owned/operated to population-owned/operated. With this, we can also eliminate the Presidency & Supreme Court, and keep only a non-partisan, non-monetized congress to act as mediator in decision-making processes.

    Even the CIA-assassinated Gaddafi of Libya understood how important it was to invest as much money into his people as possible. The amount of free stuff his people received puts Norway's welfare state to shame. He also wanted to unite all of Africa (and eventually the Middle East as well) into a single nation under a single currency & single army as a means of resisting Western expansionism. It should be obvious how much of a threat this would be to the globalist agenda of the Western ruling classes. Fidel Castro wanted to unite all of Latin America. Several hundred times the U.S. tried to assassinate him and failed, but did manage to confine & impose sanctions on Cuba. Mossadeque of Iran was ousted by a CIA-orchestrated coup because he wanted to nationalize the oil and invest it in the people. These are just a few examples. The West (U.S. & European nations) have been at this for centuries. But now advances in technology have shrunk the world, and with this, Western expansionism has taken on a new, and even more deadly wrinkle.

    FYI, bigger companies can out-compete smaller companies, which reduces the job market and increases the monopoly on goods & services. This impact gets worse when large companies merge. But this is all by design. Government leaders (ie, the slave-owning 'founding fathers') had learned that monarchies & overt dictatorships don't work anymore...and had morphed its governing body into a new totalitarian system...but one that appears benign & 'democratic', yet still protects, enriches, and favors the wealthy. Government is now a corporatocracy. Corporations are used as a totalitarian tool by government to squeeze more and more money from people. This reduces living standards, increases unemployment, increases homelessness, increases stress, increases illness, and increases crime. Corporations are also used as a tool by govt. to gobble up & control the nation's natural resources...which also contributes to a weakened, stressed, and sickened populace. That is, a population disempowered, fully enslaved, and easier to subjugate & control. Hence, large financial institutions & corporations (with their hand-picked sell-out founders/CEO's) are strongly protected by the govt. (particularly by some key Supreme Court rulings), funded/subsidized by the govt., bailed out by the govt., bolstered by "economic stimulus" measures...and all at the expense of taxpayer's money & labor.

    The people, through conditioning & programming, have become fixated on leadership rather than their own creative potential & independence. In so doing, they've forfeited their imagination and lack a rudimentary understanding of what it means to truly live and thrive.
     
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    Nice, first time I've heard that, I likey!
     
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    Go for it.
     
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    Simple question that wasn’t answered.
     
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    Well said.
     
  10. ButterBalls

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    You sure? Looks to me like I gave you a pretty straight forward and honest answer. I'm afraid this is turning in to another Trolling session simply because you fail or refuse to consider the link! Seems to be a thing with you ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Never heard a so called progressive use the word. It seems to be a hidden agenda of the right. They seem more likely to talk about it.
     
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    I believe Margret Sanger "Mother of Eugenics" was considered a progressive in her time, so that ships has sailed and landed long ago!
     
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    Still wasn’t answered. A yes or no not a link will suffice.
     
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    Funding for Israel have zero to do with blue collar union jobs.
     
  15. william kurps

    william kurps Banned

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    Uhm it all does..

    No funding for Israel = lost of high paying blue collar union jobs.

    The more I teach..
     
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    Can I design a perfect system? NO!

    Designing a perfect system in Canada and Scandinavia took decades of work by thousands of experts and legislators.
     
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    USA earns Blessing by helping Israel Numbers 24:9.
     
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    Thank you, I am not the only one


    Numbers 24:9
    SUM PIC XRF DEV STU
    Verse (Click for Chapter)
    New International Version
    Like a lion they crouch and lie down, like a lioness--who dares to rouse them? "May those who bless you be blessed and those who curse you be cursed!"

    New Living Translation
    Like a lion, Israel crouches and lies down; like a lioness, who dares to arouse her? Blessed is everyone who blesses you, O Israel, and cursed is everyone who curses you.”

    English Standard Version
    He crouched, he lay down like a lion and like a lioness; who will rouse him up? Blessed are those who bless you, and cursed are those who curse you.”

    Berean Study Bible
    He crouches, he lies down like a lion; like a lioness, who dares to rouse him? Blessed are those who bless you and cursed are those who curse you.”

    New American Standard Bible
    "He crouches, he lies down as a lion, And as a lion, who dares rouse him? Blessed is everyone who blesses you, And cursed is everyone who curses you."

    New King James Version
    ‘He bows down, he lies down as a lion; And as a lion, who shall rouse him?’ “Blessed is he who blesses you, And cursed is he who curses you.”

    King James Bible
    He couched, he lay down as a lion, and as a great lion: who shall stir him up? Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee.

    Christian Standard Bible
    He crouches, he lies down like a lion or a lioness--who dares to rouse him? Those who bless you will be blessed, and those who curse you will be cursed.

    Contemporary English Version
    Like a lion you lie down, resting after an attack. Who would dare disturb you? "Anyone who blesses you will be blessed; anyone who curses you will be cursed."

    Good News Translation
    The nation is like a mighty lion; When it is sleeping, no one dares wake it. Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed, And whoever curses Israel will be cursed."
     
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    I guess this is a question for Human Resources I suppose. I don't know why or undestand why you can't take a simply answer like NO and a link as my answer.. But this is hardly something new, this trolling thing seems to be a game of yours..

    Oh well, I tried ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    We go outside and play..

    Instead of locked up in a mother's basement some where, simple enough for ya?

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    I’m likely to talk about interesting ideas whether anyone else uses a certain term or not. I’d be more interred in hearing your opinion on the ideas I’ve put forth than this silliness. Is there some reason you wish to avoid discussing the topic and divert attention to your perception of “the right”?
     
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    Addiction is .. by definition .. a dysfunction.
     
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    1) No, it's a 'judgement' driven by genuine concern for the individual's wellbeing. Failure to 'judge' is the real cruelty.

    2) You think the average homeless person is going to spend money on those things? If yes, then you are - with respect - very naive. How do you think they ended up homeless in the first place?
     
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    All true. But the addicts figure is closer to 90%.
     
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    Who is behind it, do you think? I haven't a clue.
     

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