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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No! They're looking for a life for their children. Not "better". A life.

    So we cannot move forward then. Because you make an incorrect assumption. The majority of illegal immigrants did not commit a crime. Overstaying a visa is not a crime. It's a civil violation. Like parking a mid-size car in a parking spot reserved for compacts. Those who were brought here as minors have committed no crime whatsoever. Some of them don't even know that they were brought here illegally.

    Your problem is not only that you are uninformed. It's even worse. Your problem is that you think that you are informed. I have, in the past, taken a deep breath and patiently explained to an uninformed poster the most basic concepts. However, in this case, and as shown by the following quote...

    ... you're not even serious. So it would be a waste of time....

    Thank you anyway..
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well... here's a nugget for you: I am pro-life and pro-choice at the same time. Stick around kid. I've a feeling you have quite a bit to learn.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You have no empathy for illegal aliens because one of them committed a murder? Then I guess you would have no empathy for Trump supporters if I named one who committed a murder, right?

    Should I give you some names, or was that just hypocrisy?

    BTW, illegal aliens do not take our jobs. In fact, they often create more jobs. And once they are in the country, they commit far less crimes than the average population..
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you talking about Trump and his cabinet?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Try again. This time, try actually reading the post you are responding to.
     
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    Hopefully, you will still want to reply to me.

    So what? Is that the responsibility of America? If that's the case, you have some billions of people to take in.

    OK, I admit I did wrong when I mixed 'entering' and 'staying'. However, you did not address illegal entering ones. Is that a crime? Do you think the current punishment is enough to deter future ones?
    What is the punishment for staying illegal, the civil violation? Do you think that is enough?

    I was exaggerating to make a point, and I don't think of myself informed on the topic or a quality poster in general. But I am not aware this is a requirement for posting here.

    Do you consider uncontrolled mass immigration to be a security threat? If you do:
    What is your limit on the number of illegals entering the US for you to be gun trigger happy? Tell me a number, when the usage of machine guns is justified for you. 100 million? 1 billion?

    Thanks for the replies!
     
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    The one's being round up are the one's who committed crimes and/or failed to appear for their court date. You do want a lawful society, right?
     
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  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not really. But I guess yours is the last post in my queue. So... what's up?

    Yes it is! It's written right there on the Statue of Liberty! And it's in our laws and in International Law We cannot take "billions of people". Nor are there billions of people wanting to come here. But we can help many. And, BTW, it's what has made this country great!

    Not necessarily. As I said, if you were brought in as a minor by your parents, you have committed no crime.

    Nothing will deter somebody who is trying to save their family from gang violence. Not even separating the children from their parents. It's cruel and inhumane to do that. But it will not deter them. And this is what Trump and his supporters refuse to understand.

    Depends on what you mean by "enough" (see above). Punishment for overstaying a visa is deportation and cancellation of their visa, I think. I don't know if there is a fine if they re-apply or how long they have to wait.

    That's good to hear. We can have some fun sometimes. But there are those who simply are not here for a serious discussion at all. I just never respond to them.

    I just responded to this question a few posts above yours. Here

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/it-starts.557643/page-5#post-1070696729
     
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    Not "right". My post is not about any of that. Because there was never any intention to round up anybody. It was and has always been just political show. Pure fascism.

    And now it stops!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/it-stops.557684/
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ok. You don't want to read the link I sent? Not much I can do to force you, is there? Once again you have proven that cult mentality always beats facts.
     
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    Sounds like Costa Rica is getting tired of immigrants.
    https://theconversation.com/the-ris...-violence-and-nationalism-in-costa-rica-73899
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/22/world/americas/nicaragua-migrants-costa-rica.html
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/01/amer...ed-nicaraguan-asylum-seekers-unhcr/index.html
     
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    No, Democrats are waiting for McConnell to let them vote on bills to SEND to Trump.
     
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    Did you bother to read the articles that you quote?

    Nearly 8,000 asylum claims by Nicaraguans have been registered in Costa Rica since April and some 15,000 more have been given appointments for later registration, UNHCR reported.

    "UNHCR appreciates the efforts of the Costa Rican authorities in keeping the country's borders open to Nicaraguans in need of international refugee protection, in line with its long tradition of solidarity," agency spokesman William Spindler said at a press conference in Geneva on Tuesday.

    As I said: illegal immigration is a problem. After all, this is an underdeveloped country. But you will be hard pressed to find many people saying that it's anywhere near one of the country's worst problems.
     
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    One hundred plus sitting on Mitch’s desk and for the life of me I don’t understand why Pelosi and Schumer are not reading a list of them every time a camera is pointed in their direction.

    The D’s either do not have a communication team or they need to fire the one they do. First order of business—gag the Speaker.

    Anyway, the President called off the raids. The idea was moronic and speaking about it was more so. Someone must have gotten to him about the optics: really bad TV.
     
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    It's frustrating how Dems suck at communications!
     
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    SS Mueller never stated that Trump committed any crimes.
     
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    Nothing stopped. Business as usual. Get used to it...

    Acting ICE Director Mark Morgan says he's got 'green light' to continue removing illegal immigrants
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/acting-i...light-to-continue-removing-illegal-immigrants
     
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    He said Trump was a criminal sack of **** but that he couldn't do anything as along as he was POTUS and that Congress would have to take out the trash.
     
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    So I guess if an american citizen murdered an illegal, it would be no big deal right? I mean it wasn't a big deal when an illegal murdered Kate Steinle.
     
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    It was a two week delay until congress can come up with something, if they don't he said he's resuming it.
     
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    Keep telling yourself that. lol
     
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    So Pelosi better get off her lazy a** and get to work.
     
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    what are you morons going to do about it? nothing. You all are nothig, but traitors in this country. I wouldn't mind a mass democrat exodus.
     
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    Just read the report not some thread and posters opinions
     

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