Jan 12, 2017 Biden unmasked Flynn and WaPo posted the first article about the Flynn phone call.

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  1. NightOwl

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    (Sarcasm font) you mean the dems concocted a false narrative, framed a guy and then leaked a bunch of information they knew to be false in order to try an illegally impeach the POTUS.... Nooooooooooo not the democrats. Pfffft.... (Sarcasm font off)

    The Obama people hated Trump and his supporters so much they were willing to risk committing treason. My question is what else are they hiding.
     
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    Second, the Bill of Rights consists of prohibitions and restrictions on the federal government.

    Why is that important?

    Because our ancestors knew that the federal power would inevitably attract people to public office who would do the types of things that were being restricted. They would criminalize speech, especially speech that was critical of federal officials. They would ban protests against government. They would force people to subscribe to a certain religion. They would seize people’s guns. They would punish any malefactor by simply having civil or military agents take people into custody, incarcerate them, torture them, or execute them, all without trial by jury and due process of law.

    The Bill of Rights was to serve as a reminder that federal officials had no legitimate power to do any of these things.

    Third, the Bill of Rights contains no emergency or crisis exception.

    That’s because our ancestors knew that historically crises and emergencies were the time-honored way by which people lost their liberties at the hands of their own government. During such times, people become afraid and their natural tendency is to look to the government to keep them safe and secure.

    They forget that the biggest threat to their liberty is their very own government, as reflected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Thus, they eagerly trade away their liberty for “security.” Later, when the crisis or emergency has passed, they discover that the government is unwilling to give up the power it has acquired over them.

    Never Forget...

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/three-reminders-bill-rights
     
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    Then why wasn’t Flynn charged with negotiating with a foreign country? Oh because he didn’t.

    just like he didn’t lie, as the newly released Brady evidence highlights and why the DOJ is dismissing the case
     
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    We aren't into divining the mutterings of oracles here. State your point.
     
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    Quid pro joe’s dirty hands are all over this.

    the Obamagate gang is in full panic
     
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    You're kidding right? If you don't get my meaning by reading what I wrote then maybe you should invest in some reading comprehension tutoring. What exactly is there not to get.
     
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    Really ? You mean the Trump DOJ is releasing things that help Flynn ?

    Ask yourself a simple question: Who forced Michael Flynn to lie to the FBI ?
     
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    Of course...it’s called Brady evidence and is required

    He didn’t
     
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    No. It was gibberish. Either state your point clearly, or get lost.
     
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    A United States Army General plead guilty for not lying ?

    We have audio tapes of what he did and said with the Russian Ambassador AND we have the transcripts of his interrogation. Pretty easy case here ;)

    But Im sure Trump wont let those be released ;)

    Who would be impacted by the release of him negotiating with the Russians on behalf of candidate Donald J Trump ?....hmmmmm who could that be......hmmmmmmmmmm I wonder who that could be.......
     
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    What a joke. The point is clear as glass, you just don't like what I had to say. The Russia hoax has been exposed. The narrative has fallen apart and no amount of denial or feigned ignorance is going to change it.
     
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    Yep...they were threatening his family and he was bankrupt.

    we do and it doesn’t show he lied about anything material.

    there was no negotiation...he simply asked them not to overreact. We know what was said.
     
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    Oh... and there are now going to be active hearings into the crossfire hurricane operation. I can't wait to see what kind of excuses are presented.
     
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    No it wasn't. But I agree with your point and hope for indictments, though I'm not holding my breathe. Thank you for clarifying.
     
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    No it is not... Stop making **** up.
     
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    I predict that if Biden is every forced to testify, he will state that he doesn't remember why he unmasked him, or what he did with the information.

    And how about all the nonsenses that was so confidently stated about General Flynn, this entire time.

    Nearly 4 years of the "Fire-hose of Lies" strategy and it's all a fabrication by folks who picked a terrible candidate and then lost an election they felt entitled to win.

    Don’t Shrug at Obama’s Michael Flynn Scandal
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    An unconscionable attempt to take out a political enemy with state power.​

    How would President Obama be reacting to the collapse of the case against Michael Flynn if Flynn were a black teen?

    Picture a racist white FBI agent who hates a black student and became enraged when that teen publicly insulted one of the agent’s close friends. Say the FBI sends two guys over to the teen’s house, claiming it suspects him of being involved in drug trafficking, and starts asking the kid questions in hopes that the kid will lie.

    Suppose the FBI does not read the kid his rights before questioning him. Suppose the FBI discourages the kid from hiring a lawyer and tells the kid its investigation is friendly, not an effort to incriminate him. Suppose further that the FBI, after grilling the kid, still doesn’t think he lied (but merely that he forgot details of things he’d been asked about). Suppose the FBI then dragged out the case so long that the kid rang up $5 million in legal bills, then threatened to arrest the kid’s mother. Suppose the FBI withheld exculpatory evidence from the kid’s lawyers and agreed to leave the kid’s mother alone if he pleaded guilty — but didn’t tell the judge about this side deal.

    If the teen finally pleaded guilty to a single count of making false statements, would Obama then say, “Aha! Justice is served! The kid admits being guilty!”? If the prosecutors, years later, finally dropped the case against the kid, would Obama say, “You begin to get worried that basic — not just institutional norms — but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk” because he thought the kid deserved everything that had happened to him?

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/dont-shrug-at-obamas-michael-flynn-scandal/
     
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    Reagan was non-typical.
     
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    Reagan was my hero. I’ll be saying the same of Trump come Jan 2025.
     
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    He was definitely a good one and Trump appears to be too. Although at one point I was hoping Jesse Ventura would run for POTUS. He is another great one, but its probably past his time now.
     
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    Hmmm nice rant of course Flynn wasn't accused of that and if you can show us a law where an incoming Administration can't discuss policy with foreign leaders, I'm all ears, we'll wait? Let's take it a little farther, is it illegal for any citizen to discuss policy with foreigners? What about past administrations? If anyone in Biden's camp talks to foreigners should we wiretap him and start an fbi investigations?
     
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    No you dont know what was said. The phone conversation is still classified. We know "snippets" of it

    He told them they would lift the sanctions........do you even know what a negotiation is ?
     
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    So facts aren't your strong suit.

    Ever heard of the Hatch Act ?
     
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    I like how you say we don't know what was said....but then proceed to claim you know what was said.

    It was the Mueller team that found to keep the transcripts out of Court, it was Flynn that wanted it released...I wonder why?

    First he ordered it: https://nydailyrecord.com/2019/05/1...ael-flynn-said-in-call-to-russian-ambassador/

    Then said no...because the Mueller team didn't want it all released: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/04/flynn-kislyak-transcript-1353483

    We do know what was in the Mueller report, which was not a him saying they'd lift sanctions but merely him telling the Amb not to overreact....Judge Sullivan seems to think what was in the Mueller report was good enough.

    Therefore, that'[s not a negoitition...try again
     
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    FFS....you cannot be serious

    Hatch Act anyone ?
     
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    Huh? The Hatch Act deals with political activities of Federal Employees.....how did he violate that by telling the Russian Amb not to overreact to the sanctions?
     

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