Jane Elliott says white people know black people are in pain

Sadly this is true. But it isn't Liberals. The woke anti-liberal hate liberals most of all. Liberals are for colour blindness. The woke hate that.

 

Do you have evidence to support your claim? There have been numerous tests of black vs. white hailing a cab.

They don't have the money to establish clear title, so they can't fix the problem. The house may have changed hands after a death without some people relinquishing interest.

You may be right in some cases, but in many others you're not.

I didn't say all the teachers were bad. Poor teachers, schools lacking discipline, learning materials and equipment—they impact achievement. Better schools can help change a community.

You really don't understand schools and education.

That actual meaning would be?

Whose bad habits indulged by whom? What constitutes living beyond their means? Your judgments are unclear.

I taught in a phenomenal small high school that did all the things you said can't be done. Why would I get upset when I know you're wrong?

 

You help people by giving them a chance to succeed.

Give them the basics. Don't give them goodies, just a chance to earn the goodies.

 

They already have that. Everyone does.

 

So let them die. Got it.

 

Who said anything about letting people die? Gees.... drama queens are on parade.

 

When people have nothing but drama queen attitudes you know you're talking to an extremist. No matter what aisle you stand in.

 

If you aren't going to help AT ALL then you are going to let some of them die. Some of them need help to survive.

That's not true. Not everybody does.

And of those who do, some have much bigger chances than others through no merit or fault of their own.

This happens for many reasons and to make race a proxy for it does more harm than good.

 

EMERGENCY assistance should always be available, as assistance to mentally, emotionally or physically challenged people. But able bodied folks can earn their own way.

 

Most people are mentally, emotionally and/or physically challenged to some extent. Need to be careful with thresholds.

 

Oh I got some new ones for you. You’ll really love the last one. Make sure you stick around till the end.

The people who benefited most from slavery are unequivocally the slaves descendants. Those people who were never slaves, live opulent lives compared to the people in their country of origin and who wouldn’t go back to their shithole country of origin even if you paid them to do so. They’re looking at the newest iPhone, have big screen tvs, have jobs (or should I say a lot of them government assistance so they don’t even have to work), they’re riding around in Benz’s with 22’s on them, eating until they’re stuffed and want to throw up, etc etc.

Whereas if their great great grandparenrs were never slaves, they would be broke ass poor, living is putrid conditions, not had a shower in two weeks, eating bugs and ****ing rats to stay alive while they begged their local warlord to not murder them and their family and take their wife and children as slaves.

So if you’d like to discuss who benefitted the most from slavery, we can do that. But you don’t want to have that conversation. I promise you that’s not a conversation you want to have.

Now to the one you’re really going to enjoy.

Why is it that the left is so concerned about the slaves? These people were not just people who were kidnapped by whites while they were living their lives out picking fruit. These black people from Africa who became slaves almost UNIVERSALLY became slaves through tribal warfare. Let’s say for example that Koonta Kinye’s tribe was at war with another tribe and lost and their people were kidnapped and made into slaves and sold off to whitey whom you hate so much.

But my question to you is, what would have happened if Koonta’s tribe had WON that war? They would have murdered the elderly in the other tribe, they would have enslaved the women and children and men who were left and they would have sold them as slaves to the white man.

So in fact, the people who were made into slaves and brought here from Africa, were almost UNIVERSALLY slave traders. Slave traders who lost their gambit to make more slaves and became slaves themselves. Isn’t that what you on the left call justice?

 

Anybody who has ever worked in the service industry knows why blacks get turned down for cabs. The same reason that servers would refuse to take their tables if they could. Black people tip like **** on average. That’s why.

 

All you need is objective evaluation. Don't ask THEM...ask some objective evaluator. But I also disagree with your statement about ho mot folks are challenged to some extent. Not so in my experience.

 

Back to the OP video...

She says "I you want to be treated like black people, stand" and then concludes that since you don't stand, you recognize black people are mistreated.

No, that doesn't necessarily follow. Not at all.

First, imagine immense social pressure not to stand in that crowd when she said that. Imagine what they would think of and say to anyone who did stand.

Second, not wanting to be treated like somebody doesn't mean you think that somebody is mistreated. Do you want to be treated as a gender other than the one you identify as?

 

Do we have to choose new reasons why we are victims on any type of schedule? You know... like race on Mondays, economics on Tuesdays, being short on Wednesdays, being bald on Thursdays, being Christian on Fridays? Do we have to register with our victim reason with anyone? Or can we just change our rreason for being a victim at our whim?

 

This is true and rarely mentioned. But it doesn't justify or excuse racism or slavery in the west.

This is the same association fallacy as racism itself. No, not everyone who was taken a slave would have been a slaver, even if their tribal leaders would have been. That's like blaming peasants for the actions and attitudes of royalty.

And those born in the USA weren't involved in any of what happened back in Africa at all. They were still held as property and abused since birth by American slave holders.

You are making the same mistake as those who blame all white people for slavery and racism.

 

Is it kind of like blaming all whites for slavery even tho less than 6% of whites owned slaves? You mean like that? Cause that happens all the time.

 

I'm a lot more interested in 2023 than 1823.

 

I get that. But it's pure racism even if true. Do you want to be held responsible and treated badly for the actions of others of your race, gender, etc? I don't.

 

No but we are. Every day. I’m sure you’ve heard of white privilege. Why should they be treated any differently than they treat us?

We aren’t considered as individuals we are considered the monolithic white people who are all privileged.

 

Yes. That's what I wrote and is why what you wrote is wrong. The leasers of those tribes who sold the captured as slaves would also have been less than 6%.

 

In 2023 slavery of black people isn't a real issue aside from something brought up to enrage people.

It is true that some people today are worse off than their peers largely because they inherited less from their ancestors, but that can be due to a wide variety of reasons, and the merit or faults of those reasons aren't the moral responsibility or victimhood of the descendants.

If you inherit nothing because your great grandfather was a slave, or if you inherit nothing because your great grandfather was a gambler, you still inherit nothing and it's not your doing in either case.

 

There is racism against white people, yes. That doesn't excuse racism against non -white people.

We should be against racism in all cases.

 

My roommate in college was raised in a urine smelling tenement in Spanish Harlem with no dad in sight. His mom was a seamstress. He's an MD today. We are responsible for OURSELVES.

 

That’s fair. Unfortunately that’s not how most of the left looks at it.