Jane Elliott says white people know black people are in pain

Nah cause that’s a fight we can win. The left is full of trannies and effeminate gay guys. And the blacks wouldn’t even fight for their freedom 150-400 years ago. I doubt they’d put up much of one now against a people who didn’t want to be eradicated.

 

They would invest it elsewhere. Digital money baby

 

Is this some sort of twisted point I’m supposed to grasp? I don’t expect anyone to shower people with services. I’m saying we propose what I earlier mentioned. It’s a win with n for everyone.

 

Sounds like it will work then, let’s do it

 

Yeah. The left has shifted but we still exist over on this end of it. I am the sort of liberal who recognized that "all lives matter" is a more inclusive and less racist slogan.

 

Parents who can't provide for their kids shouldn't have kids.

 

Except that's not the question being asked.

 

Correct. It isn't. It's another and different example of the point made in the preceding sentence.

Not wanting to be treated like somebody doesn't mean you think that somebody is mistreated.

 

Unless clarification is given it does.

 

1) Again, that's their CHOICE. Plenty of poor families know how to look after their documents and do things properly. This isn't about poverty, it's about people choosing to do nothing. Failure to do things properly is almost always going to cost you more trouble and expense than it would have had you set things right in the first place.

2) I'm not buying it. The evidence from my own country demonstrates that school success (as in academic outcomes) is entirely contingent upon the quality of the students and their parents. It has nothing to do with facilities, budgets, equipment, etc. No better example of that is our public selective high schools. Some of them are even in rough areas, and most are nowhere near as well funded as private schools, yet they top the academic rankings for the nation, year after year.

3) Need is demonstrated by behaviour, not by bank balance. The only way you can differentiate between need and want, is by observing behaviour. And I don't think anyone over the age of ten doesn't know what 'living beyond your means' looks like. But since you ask, it's being on minimum wage, but spending on fast and convenience foods, or buying new things (clothes, shoes, phones, etc), or living in a private home (as in not shared with at least one other family or group), in a location where your rent or mortgage is more than 30% of your income, or running electrical appliances 24/7 etc etc. In which case you're CLEARLY not in need. Were you in need, you would have done none of those things. Any poverty arising out of that behaviour is therefore 'want'. It was chosen, freely.

 

What does this 'chance' look like?

Apparently you believe it's something which doesn't already exist, so you're going to need to explain it.

 

If you don't address the root cause TODAY, you guarantee the trouble remains and increases.

Those who claim putting a bandaid on today, is the best approach .... are determined to ruin as many as possible in the future.

 

You're missing the point. By addressing the root cause, you ARE helping people survive.

If you go to your doctor with a painful long term condition, do you want her/him to cure that disease, or just make you feel better today? Because in the game of social security, you can't have both.

 

Bingo!

 

Schools don't fail - students do

Failed families/parenting is a choice

I guarantee those kids coming to school hungry, have fat parent/s

Failing to mentally stimulate your kids is a choice

Crime is a choice

Lack of motivation on the part of students is a choice (inherited from their unmotivated parent/s)

Getting into trouble with the law is a choice

None of these need to be 'overcome' if better choices are made at the outset.

 

Yes you can

 

Then being the victim of a crime is a choice.

 

No, you cannot. They're mutually exclusive propositions.

Addressing the root cause means surgery. You either proceed, or keep handing out the painkillers which lead the patient (and thus also future patients) to believe they're not sick. You're basically 'killing' them.

 

That wasn't in his list, and has nothing to do with anything.

As is usual, when you're out of ammo you find a tangent and cling to it.

 

Sorry but wrong.

 

According to you every bad thing that happens to someone is because of choices they made.

 

No .. I've never once said that. I'm always VERY specific about what is a choice and what isn't.

A hurricane isn't a choice. A forest fire which takes out your house isn't a choice. Cancer isn't a choice (unless you're a smoker or something). War and famine aren't a choice. Being orphaned isn't a choice. Drought isn't a choice. Tsunamis aren't a choice. Etc etc etc.

 

Completely correct and you know it.

 

Repeat this sentence. Bad things that happen to people are not always the fault of the person.

 

We should never forget there are racists around and they do damage especially if they're teachers, cops, etc. We want young people especially to see these key people as fair to all. Go after racists in government services jobs and leave most everyone else to work things out for themselves.

This country has changed...

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