This myth was perpetrated by the elite ruling families of europe in order to establish global dominion (the slave so-called trade and colonialism) under the pretext of being gods 'chosen' ppl. Made in the image (white with blue eyes) of god.
myth? that's funny, coming from the guy who thinks the 10 Lost Tribes of Israel are the "Negroes" and Latin Americans, that King James was black, and that white people have lepracy.
They actually painted over old pictures of the messiah with white paint, the originals were of a brown child with curly hair. It can be found in some ancient Ethiopian manuscripts, the first bibles ever written.
why do you think I should not have said so ? Was he not a Jew ? Was he not a crook ? Please learn the difference between a singular Jew and its plural. As I've said your posts are becoming increasingly Stooopid . .. AFA I can tell , most Jews are reasonable intelligent, you OTOH - appear to be amongst a minority who are not.. tata...
this is of course a baseless and ignorant lie. next, you'll tell us that the New Testament said Jesus had "wooly" hair.
Well, they basically say that a part of Ashkenazim can trace their ancestry to Levant 2000-3000 years ago. What do they mean with that? Well, tracing the direct male lineage does not give any clue about other indirect lineages. So yes, a tiny minority of the male ancestors of Ashkenazim (speak the direct male ancestors) may have lived in the Levant 2000-3000 years ago, but this does not contradict the fact that the majoritiy of non-direct ancestors of Ashkeiazim are from Europe (see the diagram of Tom's ancestors I have posted earlier) They do not say how big this part is, 1% is also a part, and Ashkenazim Cohanims (ca. 1% of all male Ashkenazim, a priestly clan that have to observe strict blood purity laws) can really trace their ancestry to the Orient or Levant. Does Levant mean Palestine? Of course not! Levant is a huge area, and Palestine is only a part of Levant. Does Levantine ancestry prove that the ancestors were Hebrews? Of course not? These Levantie ancestors may have lived in Syria or Jordan as well, and they may have been pagans 2000 years ago who converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages. As we see, you do not understand the stuff you are quoting. It has been proven that the overwhelming majority of the ancestors (direct and indirect lineages) of Ashkenazim lived in Khazaria and in Europe. Even if we assume that a small part of DIRECT MALE ancestors really lived 2000 years ago in the Levant, then this does not contradict the fact, that the overwhelming majority of the ancestors (direct and indirect lineages) of Ashkenazim lived in Khazaria and in Europe. If you are unable to understand these simple things then you are just overcharged in this discussion.
But you wanted evidences about your hatered opinion about the Jews like you said: If you "dont give a fig" about an evidences that you asked for so dont ask for it
most recent genetic research, published in October, proves this is 100% FALSE. the Khazar theory is nothing but the racist spewing of Neo-Nazis and Klansmen.
Its NOT abt EVIDENCE - now is it ? Its imo - the OFF TOPIC -crap you persist on posting. Go have a and sort yourself out. tata..
If you dont want an evidences about your hatered opinion about the Jews, why did you ask for it? I just gave you what you want- evidence about your hatered opinion.
As I've told you several times before. the experts are not in agreement and disputing each other's findings. The jury is still out on that one.. ...
the study that YOU linked to, says that the Khazar theory is crap. don't post links to studies that you will then turn around and condemn, unless you wish to be accused of having a forked tongue.
Your so-called "latest studies " ( pro-Israel -Zionist funded) are in dispute. - The question is still being argued between/amongst opposing Geneticists -----.
the genetic study that YOU linked to, does not question the consensus that the Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews have roots in the Levant, and the Khazar theory is crap. you linked to the study. you sourced it.
Can you be more specific? What research are you talking about? That is a very idiotic statement. Neo-Nazis believe that Jews are descendants of Hebrews, Zionists and Neo-Nazis are on the same page regarding this question. Even David Duke believes that the Khazar-Theory is an invention of Zionists to fool the gullible Gentiles, and that Ashkenazi Jews are in reality the direct descendants of Hebrew. Non-Jewish Racist and Zionists hate the thruth about the Khazar ancestry of Ashkenazim because this truth destroys their racist world-view. On the other hand most prominent and leading Jewish historians (like Pollak and Sand), linguists (like Wexler and Mieses) or geneticists (like Eran Alhaik) agree that the overwhelming majority of Ashkenazi Jews stem from Khazars and Slavs, and that the fairy tale about Ashkenazi Jews being descendants of Hebrews is a crazy theory, based on demographic and other miracles, and miracles are not compatible with science.
most recent genetic research, published in October, shows this is crap and bunk. Moreover, from a survey of another >2,500 complete mtDNA genomes and >28,000 control-region sequences from Europe, the Near East and the Caucasus, in comparison with the available database of 836 Ashkenazi control-region sequences and a handful of published mitogenomes, we also evaluate the minor founders. Overall, we estimate that most (>80%) Ashkenazi mtDNAs were assimilated within Europe. Few derive from a Near Eastern source, and despite the recent revival of the ‘Khazar hypothesis’16, virtually none are likely to have ancestry in the North Caucasus These analyses suggest that the first major wave of assimilation probably took place in Mediterranean Europe, most likely in the Italian peninsula ~2 ka, with substantial further assimilation of minor founders in west/central Europe. There is less evidence for assimilation in Eastern Europe, and almost none for a source in the North Caucasus/Chuvashia, as would be predicted by the Khazar hypothesis, 9—rather, the results show strong genetic continuities between west and east European Ashkenazi communities10, albeit with gradual clines of frequency of founders between east and west http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131008/ncomms3543/full/ncomms3543.html
Well, they talk about the mtDNA, speak about the maternal ancestors. That does not contradict the Khazar theory. After the collapse of the Khazar empire the Judaised Khazars mixed with Slavs in Russia and in Poland, they married Slavic women, because Slavic women are more feminine than Caucasian women who have a lot of male hormones. That is the reason why women from Caucasus have big noses and moustaches. The problem with you is that you do not understand what you are quoting. If you had the basic knowledge about genetic you would know what mtDNA mean and how they are inherited.
well, the geneticists in the study seem to think it does. sorry bro, but I trust expert scientists over random anonymous internet posters.
It only seems to you! How can you trust somebody, if you do not understand his scientific language? Thank you for admitting that you do not understand what they are talking about in the text you have quoted. Go to Wiki and acquire some basic knowledge about direct male and female lineage and about the biogeographical ancestry. When you have learned the difference between the mtDNA-, Y-DNA- and atDNA-testing, then come back and we will continue our discussion.
Some ashkenazi jews are probably descended from the khazars, but its very minimal. Remember only the khazar ruling class converted to judaism. But of even more importance is that the vast majority of genetic studies, even Elhaik's (ironically), point to a near eastern origin both paternally and maternally. Btw, the latest autosomal dna study, which is massive and led by Behar and others points to largely middle eastern origin, however with significant southern european ancestry, at least maternally. Paternally ashkenazi jews are nearly entirely middle eastern. Its been established that the closest relatives of ashkenazi jews are sefaradic jews and syrian jews. These jewish groups are more related to each other than they are to their host populations. They are also related to middle eastern jews (other mizrahim like iraqis and iranian jews) but there are significant differences maternally. This would make sense because of the babylonian captivity. The mizrahim tend to cluster closest with assyrians and caucasians. The khazar influence among ashkenazi jews is extremely low and is limited to a very small percentage of the ethno-religious community. The khazars were actually a turkic-mongol people that resemble kazakhs. Most ashkenazi jews don't even look mongoloid at all. Any european ancestry they have comes from greco-roman conversions of southern europe. Behar has shown that maternally ashkenazim descend from four middle eastern female founders. It really varies from individual to individual though. Some ashkenazi jews have more european features, others are dark skinned and are even darker than some iraqi jews. Some ashkenazi jews cluster genetically with moroccan jews and are genetically indistinguishable. This doesn't surprise me either because both groups do tend to look alike and have exhibited the so called 'jewish look' a stereotype rather for centuries up until the present.
Remember too that middle eastern jews founded the ashkenazi and sefaradic communities of europe. Babylonian (iraqi) jews mingled with israeli/palestinian jewish exiles in northern italy during the middle ages, later they moved up into northern france and germany. Many ashkenazim descend from Rashi, a famous french jewish rabbi of middle eastern descent who could trace his ancestry back to king david. Some greco-roman jewish converts were also absorbed. Crimean Karaites on the other hand most likely are the prime candidates for large khazar ancestry, although they too mixed with slavs. People confuse the crimean karaites with ashkenazi jews. They are not related. Ashkenazi jews are mostly middle eastern with traces of french, italian, and greek dna. Of course it depends on who is being tested. Ashkenazim arent really a monolithic group anymore, they have mixed with europeans especially in the last century. Although prior to ww ii, many were darker skinned (although not all). Afterall, Hitler targeted the ashkenazi jews and the roma people (gypsies) for having such dark, non european features. European Jews descend from Israelites both from Israel and Iraq (Babylon) and from southern european people who converted to rabbinical judaism. Roma descend from North Indians who mixed with eastern europeans. All of this is really quite fascinating. Its based on genetic data, linguistic data, historical data, and geneological data. I have studied this phenomenon of european jews for 10 years. It really is interesting that they have retained most of their middle eastern features after living in europe for over 1,000 years. Of course african americans have lived in the americas for 500 years and are still black, so its not that surprising.
