Jews have a Human Right to Separate Themselves from Arab Neighbors

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  1. Margot

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    The facts indicate otherwise.

    Jews lived and prospered all over the Arab world for 2500 years BEFORE European Zionism.
     
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    Apartheid (def): A system of racial segregation enforced through legislation by the white-dominate Nationalist Party in South Africa

    Bantustan (def): A bantustan (also known as black African homeland or simply homeland) was a territory set aside for black inhabitants of South Africa with a view to forming subsequently an independent state.

    So does Israel practice apartheid by promoting the segregation of Arab Palestinians and Jews? Forget about whether it is right or wrong; does the definition apply (obviously excluding the triviality that the definition originated outside Israel).

    Is Israel a Bantustan? Or has Israel tried to make Palestine into a Bantustan (obviously again excluding the triviality that the Palestinians are not Bantu people).
     
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    God grief!! I have just been told that I am a scum bag!! And by no less than SiliconMagician. I am a scum bag for the following reason (there are others; this is the main reason):

    The Israeli declaration of independence, the document I mean, makes specific reference for justification to UN General Assembly resolution 181. Without this the Zionists appear to have realised that their declaration would have been illegal. But the major trouble is that '181' did not give the Zionists any authorisation to implement (esp. unilaterally) the Partition Plan (no matter how often Borat tries to claim it did). And the reason is that the following is the essence of '181' [click here for source]:
    The authority to implement the partition plan resided with the 'mandatory Power', at the time, Britain, or to its successor as 'mandatory Power'. The Zionists were never the mandatory Power. The Mandate for Palestine was still in fill vigilance when Israel declared independence on 14th May 1948. The Mandate for Palestine is International Law.

    So I am a scum bag for believing that the law needs to be obeyed. I repeat "Good Grief!!" - what a bizarre and twisted view.
     
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    An absolutely critical fact which is conveniently hidden behind the Zionist flowerpot. Well done, Margot.
     
  5. Margot

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    A perfect example is the history of Egyptian Jews up until the 1980s.. To claim otherwise is idiocy.
     
  6. Ivan88

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    SiliconMagician's thesis, "Jews have a Human Right to Separate Themselves from Arab Neighbors" is faulty just from the title:

    1. Jew means Judah, one of the 12 nations of Israel, so even if they are Judah, they are not Israel....it takes 12 Tribes.

    2. The Apostle Paul defines Jew (Judah) as:
    " he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
    But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." Romans 2:28-29

    3. Paul also defines Zion:
    "Ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

    To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

    And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

    See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven." Hebrews 12:22-25

    3. So how could a pack of egoistic anti-Christs be Israel, Judah or Zion?

    4. And since they are the main drivers of a current unjust war against Syria, the Mother and Father of Israel, how could they be Israel?

    5. Most of them are Ashkenazi which comes from Japheth, not Shem, yet they label most of Semitic humanity to be anti-Semitic.

    6. If they want to wall themselves off on their conquered territory, go ahead, and the rest of the world will respect that.

    But is that what they really want?

    7. In reality they are empowered by the failure of Christians to follow their Shepherd. They are simply administering the curses of the Law upon us as Moses and the Prophets warned....."Those who hate you shall rule over you." Leviticus 26:17

    8. So when Christians and Muslims dump their Pharisee thinking and actions, that is when the problem will begin to go away.
     
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    Why do our elected representatives to our federal Congress keep repeating historical mistakes, with the Peoples' money, during times of lowering Taxes and not real times of War?

    Is it too fiscally responsible to take a voice vote to simply recognize another State in historic Palestine, for free?
     
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    They seem to have an extremely odd way of going about it. Presumably sanctioned by the Old Testament.....and Hitler.

    I gather it was the latter who made liebenstraum so fashionable.
     

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