Joe owes the public a response about the family’s business.

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you claim to be an accountant. Answer this...You are part of the number crunchers and financial intellects that make the rules.......why do you cry foul when a good business man uses those rules to his advantage? As I said,if you find it virtuous to donate beyond what is required there is nothing to stop you. You would be a poor business person but I guess that would give you some kind of moral superiority in your own eyes. Change the laws if you don't like them. Personally, i'd like to see those laws so simplified tax forms could be completed on a post card. Barack and the "Big Guy" passed some write offs themselves that benefited Trump. Why don't you complain about that?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We sat by for 3-1/2 years and listened to your claims of Russian collusion.......that merited a Propaganda alert! Now you just be patient. We're starting with the evidence first and it will come to fruition. Your accusations on the other hand started with accusations then tried to come up with evidence. How'd that work for you?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach.
     
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    Well when will the media ask him if he money launderer
     
  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    The system is rigged against people earning income off their labor, and I'm not talking about an ongoing natural shift to higher returns to capital. Right-to-work, for example, laws have stripped workers of their bargaining power.

    We're headed to a crisis in a decade or two with the development artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and high-speed wireless communication. Tens of millions of Americans will find themselves no longer needed by the economy. What then?
    Who says what's "required?" You? I think we should increase personal income taxes on people like me as part if the solution because workers aren't getting a reasonable share of the GDP.
    I ran an auto repair business with around 100 employees, sold out, then decided what I wanted to do with the rest of my life. My wife was teaching school and I thought that looked like something worth doing. We had enough money that we didn't need to work.
    I never supported a Democrat until 2020. Trump is why. Tax collection should be simple, but that isn't the issue I'm talking about.

    How much longer do you think workers are going to support a system where they don't get screwed?
     
  6. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I said all along Mueller would give Trump a clean bill-of-health on Russian collusion. The Orange Oaf surprised me by being stupid enough to obstruct the investigation.
    You have zip. It's Trump propaganda. As Vice President, Joe wasn't in a position to deliver on anything.
     
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  7. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    :yawn: :yawn:

    IOW, you swung and missed.
     
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  8. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Only from the business records and before Bobulinski went public and they are all over calling for the Bidens to come out and addreas the matter. Did you not notice whom I am citing? And yes he confirmed the planned 10% share to Joe.

    Have the Bidens said the laptop is not Hunters, the emails are fake and Bobulinski is lying.
     
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  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why do you believe your desperate attempts to divert mitigate what the Bidens were up to?

    The biggest issue is whether the Biden family machine was selling influence and access to our sworn enemies. Deal with it.
     
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    A proposed 10% equity share after he was no longer in office and that there's not even any evidence he took them up on the equity is pretty much the lamest "scandal" imaginable.

    Let's just assume the emails are all real. So far the emails have been nothingburgers. WSJ and Fox reviewed Bobulinski's docs and found nothing incriminating Joe Biden. Whatever additional Bobulinski had, Tucker Carlson took a look at it and ALSO found nothing incriminating Joe Biden.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    And the moment you find some evidence that they did, let us know. The best you've offered so far is an email outlining a theoretical equity split AFTER THERE WAS NO LONGER AND INFLUENCE TO SELL. Deal with it.
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    From above

    "He also related a conversation in which he said Jim Biden said the answer to questions about Biden family involvement with foreign entities was “plausible deniability.”"
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    This has all been posted to you with cites and and this is a public official.and family doing so not some private affair. What was "examined" were the public records when if you knew anything about this you would know OF COURSE they were hiding Joe's involvement and Joe has been lying about it. "Plausible deniabilty".

    Now once again have the Bidens refuted that the laptop belongs to Hunter, the emails and text messages are real and Bobulinski is telling the truth? Have they given sworn statements? What do you have to refute the evidence at hand and that has been cites already?
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    Dodge noted

    I didn't ask if you tend not to. I expect you to not ever again cite one of them else you will show you are only desperately trying to keep your head in the sand here.
     
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    That's WHY he owes an explanation.
     
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    What business are you talking about and other income is legitimate income.
     
  17. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    It is evidence presented to the FBI by Bobulinski and nothing to do with Giuliani. That's why.
     
  18. yardmeat

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    The people who have reviewed this "evidence" so far have found nothing that incriminates Joe Biden. The WSJ found nothing, Fox news found nothing, and Tucker Carlson found nothing.
     
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    No, its not. I’m focused on prioritizing what actually matters, not what is perceived to matter.
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    Yes they do and you do and that you don't shows your partisan blinders.

    Address the statements and evidence given to the FBI under threat of perjury, making false statements to federal investigators and obstruction of justice.

    And if I search back will I find you taking the same position on the fake Russian collusion scheme?
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    Yes it is, it was selling out the office to enrich his family and THAT matters else let me see where you have posted all inquiries into Trump should have never occurred and should be immediately dropped.
     
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    Which line is that?
     
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    Now if only you had evidence of your claim. One day. Just keep clicking your heels.
     
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    Hard evidence given under penalty of law.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    1) When did he testify that access to Joe Biden, as VP, was actually sold? 2) If this is your new standard, then we have hard evidence that Trump is a pedophile rapist. You sure that's your standard?
     

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