John Oliver Rails Against Supreme Court Change And Death Of Roe V Wade

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  1. KJohnson

    KJohnson Well-Known Member

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    Think I explained that...Prospective parents looking to adopt undamaged newborns, are usually well heeled per sé and can take care of those children without financial help and that's why it's crucial for those that don't have an abortion and take them to term hand them over directly after birth.

    We need to strive as a nation to educate people to stop having children they can't afford. Many do this intentionally to get the freebie entitlements which need to stop and the way to make that happen is to make people work for those funds. Guaranteed they'll stop having a lot of those kids then. And also hand out birth control free if need be because that would be more humane than killing babies and cheaper than trying to raise them.

    Also, no one should be allowed to sit on the couch all day playing video games and getting high while their kid sits on the floor in the corner in a dirty diaper basically in his own feces crying his eyes out, all on the American taxpayer..
     
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    It is a zygote or an embryo.
     
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    Well here is another webmd page

    https://www.webmd.com/baby/ss/slideshow-conception
    A man may ejaculate 40 million to 150 million sperm, which start swimming upstream toward the fallopian tubes on their mission to fertilize an egg. Fast-swimming sperm can reach the egg in a half an hour, while others may take days. The sperm can live up to 48-72 hours. Only a few hundred will even come close to the egg because of the many natural barriers that exist in a woman's body.
     
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    Ok what does this have to do with how long it takes to fertilize an egg.
     
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    if cowardly establishment republican pukes won't put an end to the unlawful practice of utilizing taxpayer dollars to subsidize on-demand abortions, I think Roe v. Wade is safe.
     
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    How do you plan to police all of this? What about those who refuse to use birth control? It's tough to make guarantees when you don't personally know the people having kids one after another.

    Finally, do you honestly think it's realistic to assume that 6,000,000 children could be adopted by willing people??
     
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    Bottom line we need to stop rewarding people with entitlements for having kids.. They should have to work for those funds.
     
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    Not a scientist here..only know they claim it's 95% effective if taken within 24 hours. That of course would be an all out panic attempt after the woman realizes she forgot to take her pill or after she's been raped. First defense should of course always be the pill or IUD, in conjunction with contraceptive foams or condoms in my opinion.
     
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    Agreed; but what if they refuse to work for those funds? What then?
     
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    One thing I actually can agree with you on

    Why do we give $2,000 tax credit for each kid
     
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    http://www.humpath.com/spip.php?article10381

    So if you saw that you would just step on it and keep moving? That's your "position"?

    Yeah. I'll fight you if necessary. Without compunction.
     
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    order the day after pills now, while you can

    republicans will go after birth control next
     
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    no, if the government can force you to have a baby, then they can force you to abort, thus the courts deciding only a women can decide what to do with her body, not the government decide for her
     
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    yep, that will be next, as people have kids they can't afford because they were denied a abortion, taxes will have to go up to help support those children, then republicans will complain about that

    if we are gonna force people to have children they can't afford, we need to help those children
     
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    You can’t force anyone to do what comes natural.
     
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    OMG

    Does not know the failure rates of contraception
     
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    What pathetic arguments - and these are from Princeton??

    They do not even address the points correctly they simply stick to the argument that because a clump of. Cells have human DNA they are absolutely destined to become a human

    Mind there are a lot of beings who are upright and adult whom I do not consider fully "human" but that is another story......
     
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    Anyone can post memes

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    But I think mine is more accurate
     
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    You mean Republicans expect them to pay for it themselves. Oh the horror! :cynic:
     
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    National Institutes of Health, Medline Plus Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary (2013), http://www.merriamwebster.com/medlineplus/fertilization

    The government’s own definition attests to the fact that life begins at fertilization. According to the National Institutes of Health, “fertilization” is the process of union of two gametes (i.e., ovum and sperm) “whereby the somatic chromosome number is restored and the development of a new individual is initiated.”

    Steven Ertelt”Undisputed Scientific Fact: Human Life Begins at Conception, or Fertilization” LifeNews.com 11/18/13

    “Human life begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm (spermatozoo developmentn) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.” “A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo).”


    F Beck Human Embryology, Blackwell Scientific Publications, 1985 page vi
    “It is the penetration of the ovum by a sperm and the resulting mingling of nuclear material each brings to the union that constitutes the initiation of the life of a new individual.”

    “Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. was first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization:

    “The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”



    The medical textbook, Before We Are Born – Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects, states:

    “The zygote and early embryo are living human organisms.”

    Keith L. Moore & T.V.N. Persaud Before We Are Born – Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects (W.B. Saunders Company, 1998. Fifth edition.) Page 500

    Quoted in Eric Pastuszek. Is the Fetus Human? (Rockford, Illinois: Tan books And Publishers Inc., 1991)

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    “The term conception refers to the union of the male and female pronuclear elements of procreation from which a new living being develops. It is synonymous with the terms fecundation, impregnation, and fertilization … The zygote thus formed represents the beginning of a new life.”

    J.P. Greenhill and E.A. Freidman. Biological Principles and Modern Practice of Obstetrics. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Publishers. 1974 Pages 17 and 23......snip~


    http://www.lifenews.com/2015/01/08/...tbooks-prove-human-life-begins-at-conception/

    Its clear you can't fathom what Embryology is about. Nor what Embryologists have been saying for years. Tell us how they don't know anything about biology.....again.

    Oh, and here is some more for you to ponder in sheer amazement. Just some basic facts.


    Science Shows That Life Begins at Conception

    Contrary to Carmon’s allegation that “conception” and “life” are not scientific terms, both of these words are clearly defined in science dictionaries and widely used in scientific literature.

    To cite just a few examples, the American Heritage Science Dictionary defines “conception” as “the formation of a zygote resulting from the union of a sperm and egg cell; fertilization.” (For reference, a zygote is the first stage of a human embryo.)

    Likewise, the entry for “life” in the American Heritage Dictionary of Science states that life is “the form of existence that organisms like animals and plants have and that inorganic objects or organic dead bodies lack; animate existence, characterized by growth, reproduction, metabolism, and response to stimuli.”

    Rubio’s statement that “human life begins at conception” is consistent with both of these definitions, because human zygotes display all four empirical attributes of life:

    Furthermore, the science of embryology has proven that the genetic composition of humans is formed during fertilization, and as the textbook Molecular Biology explains, this genetic material is “the very basis of life itself.”.....snip~

    https://www.justfactsdaily.com/the-science-of-abortion-when-does-life-begin/

    I know.....it blows your mind. Just simple facts. But then that isn't surprising.
     
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    No "baby" is killed in abortion.


    No one is obligated to put drugs or foreign objects in their bodies.

    No one is obligated to use their body to sustain the life of another.

    No one is obligated to suffer pain and physical damage ( of pregnancy) to sustain the life of another.

    No one is obligated to provide others with children.


    Women are not cattle to be controlled by the government.

    Pregnant women have a right to their own bodies just like everyone else.


    To overturn RvW there needs to be a reason and there hasn't been one in almost 50 years.








    IF the Republicans were to overturn RvW whatever will they use to get the gullible to vote for them? :)
     
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    And what do you expect birth control costs??

    https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states
     
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    I don't.

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    Stay away from "lifeshitenews" it is fact free and emotion positive

    "Life" might begin at conception but it can also end there

    It is calculated that 50% of fertilised eggs never implant

    Which makes God the biggest abortionist
     
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    They just are statements backed up thru references. Those would be the little words at the end of the link that reference what they are talking about. Just an FYI there.

    Didn't want you to think you were being taken advantage of. Just sayin.
     

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