You were very fortunate to have seen the "Holy Lands" aka historic Palestine before the premeditated 1967 Land Grab[1] I regret that in spite of extended stays in Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Iran etc that I never made it to Palestine/Israel due to getting caught up in the '73 War. I sensed no hatred of Jews throughout these Islamic countries for who they are but more of an anger & resentment of what the Israeli Government / Zionist Regimes have done and continue to do. It is also a myth that Jews & Arabs have always been fighting [2] and at each other's throats The current Israel/Palestine tragedy seems quite simple: Distant Jewish Colonists & Foreign Zionist Terrorist gangs invaded distant Palestine from Russia, Brooklyn, England, Poland etc & with the near omnipotent clout of Zionist Lobbies in England & the U.S., they forced their Colony on Native Residents & awarded 56 percent of Palestine to its 650,000 Jewish inhabitants, and 44 percent to its 1,300,000 Muslim and Christian Arab inhabitants. The U.N. was just a another Colonial entity doing the will of the Zionist dominated, Colonial Governments. The US & British Zionist lobbies with their colonizing agenda were as influential in the early 1900s as they are now & were responsible for abrogating the The McMahon Agreement with the ethically flawed Balfour Declaration The unfortunate Arabs who lived up to their agreement with the British government were simply betrayed due to the machinations of the British Zionist Lobby & have been cheated, slaughtered & robbed ever since......The Arabs knew nothing & had no reason to voluntarily cede their land & authority to the U.N. or any other distant Western power. It's a fairly straightforward history but members of the Israeli Hasbara network need to obfuscate the simple truth with blaming the Arabs for not meekly submitting to slaughter, Evictions & agreeing to outrageously unfair Foreign driven dictates, mandates etc. I'm afraid that the advent of a rigid, anti Islamic & Right Wing Trump administration has only emboldened an already extreme Right Wing Zionist Regime to proceed with even more murderous land grabs & brazen large scale massacres You were, indeed, lucky to have had the opportunity to visit the "Holy Lands" prior to the '67 land grab as current Israeli anti-Christian sentiment seems to be the mood of today[3] As always, I appreciate your excellent & informative Posts [1] “Begin’s Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars” http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0794/9407073.htm “It was 12 years ago when Prime Minister Menachem Begin admitted in public that Israel had fought three wars in which it had a "choice," meaning Israel started the wars. Begin's admission came in a speech delivered on Aug. 8, 1982, before the Israeli National Defense College. His purpose was to defuse mounting criticism of Israel's invasion of Lebanon, which had begun two months earlier on June 5 and was clearly one of Israel's wars of "choice." The others were in 1956 and 1967.” CONTINUED “In June 1967, we had a choice. The Egyptian army concentration in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.” Menachem Begin (1913 - 1992), former Israeli Prime Minister, speaking about the "six day war" [2] “Top Ten Myths about the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict” http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/ EXCERPTS: Myth #1 – Jews and Arabs have always been in conflict in the region. “ For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine British held a commission of inquiry, which reported their finding that “there is no inherent anti-Semitism in the country, racial or religious.” Rather, Arab attacks on Jewish communities were the result of Arab fears about the stated goal of the Zionists to take over the land. the British Shaw Commission report noted that “In less than 10 years three serious attacks have been made by Arabs on Jews. For 80 years before the first of these attacks there is no recorded instance of any similar incidents.” Representatives from all sides of the emerging conflict testified to the commission that prior to the First World War, “the Jews and Arabs lived side by side if not in amity, at least with tolerance, a quality which today is almost unknown in Palestine.” The British Hope-Simpson report of 1930 similarly noted that Jewish residents of non-Zionist communities in Palestine enjoyed friendship with their Arab neighbors. “It is quite a common sight to see an Arab sitting in the verandah of a Jewish house”, the report noted. “The position is entirely different in the Zionist colonies.”CONTINUED [3] “Israeli Abuse of and Attacks on Christians in the Holy Land | Beyond ...” https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com...f-and-attacks-on-christians-in-the-holy-land/ EXCERPT: "As you can see below, abuse of Christians in Israel, especially in Jerusalem, is a daily affair. In fact, when you chalk up the incidents and multiply them by 44 times to account for population differences, there are vastly more attacks on Christians in Israel than there are anti-Semitic attacks against Jews in the US, by an order of magnitude or more. The spitting alone would amount to a minimum of 44 incidents a day in the US of Gentiles spitting on Jews. If one US Gentile spits on a Jew, rest assured that Abe Foxman has a report on it somewhere. Israel has never been a very friendly place for Christians, but in recent years with the rise of Orthodox hostility and Price Tag attacks, things have gotten much worse.”CONTINUED
Yes, I agree that the current situation in historic Palestine / Israel is tragic & looks even more bleak with Trump's apparent cozy relationship with Israel's Right Wing Extremists The Netanyahu Regime sees Trump's election as a Green Light to continue its Expansionism & Genocidal agenda. The only positive development I see in the Region is the Russian counter-balance to future US - Israeli Regional machinations. I admit that I am only casually familiar with Sabeel & F.O.S.N.A. except for what I've recently read. Their educational mission statement is especially praiseworthy as is their call for "Responsible Investment" which includes boycotting: 1. Ahava 2. Delta Galil Industries 3. Motorola 4. L'Oreal / The Body Shop 5. Dorot Garlic and Herbs 6. Estee Lauder 7. Intel 8. Sabra 9. Sara Lee 10. Victoria's Secret Unfortunately, very few members of America's delusional & fanatic "Christian Right" & "Christian Zionists" know of the true persecution of real Christians in the Holy Land or of the plight of Palestine's ruthlessly persecuted, indigenous non Jewish Population; Christians & Muslims. You're right, the situation in the Holy Land / Historic Palestine is especially sad & not likely to improve as Trump begins to assemble a cabinet of pro Zionists who will certainly try to make things more difficult for groups like F.O.S.N.A. & Sabeel. However, it is when things look the most bleak, it is time for those supporting Justice in Palestine / Israel to work the hardest. Thanks
There are many Muslim graduate students in the US from Arab countries. .. and they weren't concerned with Trump's rhetoric until now.. Many of them are reconsidering finishing their studies in the US. I would be encouraged if Trump would stop tweeting and set up his blind trust, but I don't think either is likely to happen. This may be a crazy four years.. Trump seems to be addicted to drama.
Thus far the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan has weathered the storm that has swept across the Middle East since the beginning of the year. But the relative calm in Amman is an illusion. The unspoken truth is that the Palestinians, the country's largest ethnic group, have developed a profound hatred of the regime and view the Hashemites as occupiers of eastern Palestine—intruders rather than legitimate rulers. This, in turn, makes a regime change in Jordan more likely than ever. Such a change, however, would not only be confined to the toppling of yet another Arab despot but would also open the door to the only viable peace solution—and one that has effectively existed for quite some time: a Palestinian state in Jordan. The majority Palestinian population of Jordan bridles at the advantages and benefits bestowed on the minority Bedouins. Advancement in the civil service, as well as in the military, is almost entirely a Bedouin prerogative with the added insult that Palestinians pay the lion's share of the country's taxes. Despite having held a comprehensive national census in 2004, the Jordanian government would not divulge the exact percentage of Palestinians in the kingdom. Nonetheless, the secret that everyone seems to know but which is never openly admitted is that Palestinians make up the vast majority of the population. In his 2011 book, Our Last Best Chance, King Abdullah claimed that the Palestinians make up a mere 43 percent. The U.S. State Department estimates that Palestinians make up "more than half" of Jordanians[1] while in a 2007 report, written in cooperation with several Jordanian government bodies, the London-based Oxford Business Group stated that at least two thirds of Jordan's population were of Palestinian origin.[2] Palestinians make up the majority of the population of Jordan's two largest cities, Amman and Zarqa, which were small, rural towns before the influx of Palestinians arrived in 1967 after Jordan's defeat in the Six-Day War. In most countries with a record of human rights violations, vulnerable minorities are the typical victims. This has not been the case in Jordan where a Palestinian majority has been discriminated against by the ruling Hashemite dynasty, propped up by a minority Bedouin population, from the moment it occupied Judea and Samaria during the 1948 war (these territories were annexed to Jordan in April 1950 to become the kingdom's West Bank). As a result, the Palestinians of Jordan find themselves discriminated against in government and legislative positions as the number of Palestinian government ministers and parliamentarians decreases; there is not a single Palestinian serving as governor of any of Jordan's twelve governorships.[3] Jordanian Palestinians are encumbered with tariffs of up to 200 percent for an average family sedan, a fixed 16-percent sales tax, a high corporate tax, and an inescapable income tax. Most of their Bedouin fellow citizens, meanwhile, do not have to worry about most of these duties as they are servicemen or public servants who get a free pass. Servicemen or public employees even have their own government-subsidized stores, which sell food items and household goods at lower prices than what others have to pay,[4] and the Military Consumer Corporation, which is a massive retailer restricted to Jordanian servicemen, has not increased prices despite inflation.[5] Decades of such practices have left the Palestinians in Jordan with no political representation, no access to power, no competitive education, and restrictions in the only field in which they can excel: business. According to the Minority Rights Group International's World Directory of Minorities and Indigenous Peoples of 2008, "Jordan still considers them [Palestinian-Jordanians] refugees with a right of return to Palestine."[6] This by itself is confusing enough for the Palestinian majority and possibly gives basis for state-sponsored discrimination against them; indeed, since 2008, the Jordanian government has adopted a policy of stripping some Palestinians of their citizenship.[7] Thousands of families have borne the brunt of this action with tens of thousands more potentially affected. The Jordanian government has officially justified its position: Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior Nayef Qadi told the London-based al-Hayat newspaper that "Jordan should be thanked for standing up against Israeli ambitions of unloading the Palestinian land of its people" which he described as "the secret Israeli aim to impose a solution of Palestinian refugees at the expense of Jordan."[8] According to a February 2010 Human Rights Watch (HRW) report, some 2,700 Jordanian-Palestinians have had their citizenship revoked. As HRW obtained the figure from the Jordanian government, it is safe to assume that the actual figure is higher. To use the words of Sarah Leah Whitson, executive director of the Middle East and North Africa division of HRW, "Jordan is playing politics with the basic rights of thousands of its citizens."[9] But Abdullah does not really want the Palestinians out of his kingdom. For it is the Palestinians who drive the country's economy: They pay heavy taxes; they receive close to zero state benefits; they are almost completely shut out of government jobs, and they have very little, if any, political representation. He is merely using them as pawns in his game against Israel by threatening to make Jerusalem responsible for Jordanians of Palestinian descent in the name of the "right of return." Despite systematic marginalization, Palestinians in Jordan seem well-settled and, indeed, do call Jordan home. Hundreds of thousands hold "yellow cards" and "green cards," residency permits allowing them to live and work in Israel while they maintain their Jordanian citizenship.[10] In addition, tens of thousands of Palestinians—some even claim hundreds of thousands—hold Israeli residency permits, which allow them to live in Judea and Samaria. Many also hold a "Jerusalem Residency Card," which entitles them to state benefits from Israel.[11] Yet they have remained in Jordan. Despite ill treatment by the Jordanian government, they still wish to live where most of their relatives and family members live and perhaps actually consider Jordan home.
Nonsense.. Most Palestinians lived in towns and villages. That's why the Israelis looted and leveled over 300 villages in 1947-1948.. Read what your founding fathers wrote about that.
There was no such thing as Palestinians before 1947 !! 99% of the so called Palestinians were Bedouins which came to the holy land from Africa and Arab countries.
Check the bible.. what was the name of the kingdom of Hebrews ? The so called Palestinians ( whom by the way, are responsible for the violence in that area ) should take over their true land Jordan and live on the east side of the Jordan river. - - - Updated - - - Adolf Nazi Araffat invented the name Palestinians
I think you'll find it was Canaan, old chap. Incidentally, you do realise, I assume, that any child born within the borders of the Mandate Palestine and outside the borders of the 'recognised' Israel - i.e. the West Bank, the Golan, etc.- is by birthright and regardless of his parents' faith or religion, Palestinian? Should they all be exported to Jordan, too? Just a thought...
I lived in Arabia in the early 1950s and many Palestinians lived and worked there.. Many attended church and Sunday school with us or they attended Catholic mass. Saying they didn't exist until Arafat is a really pathetic lie.
•1939 - British White Paper on Palestine http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/mideast.asp#1930
•1946 - Immigration into Palestine : Statement by President Truman, October 4 •1947 - U. S. Position on Palestine Question - Statement by Herschel V. Johnson, U. S. Deputy Representative to the United Nations, October 11 •1947 - Partition of Palestine : United Nations Resolution 181; November 29
On June 30, 1922, a joint resolution of both houses of the congress was passed and approved, and there was unanimously endorsed the "establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people,", as it was also written in San Remo Resolution and in Article 95 of the treaty of Severs. Former President Warren G. Harding signed the Lodge-Fish resolution. President Herbert Hoover also talked about it by saying: Source: http://www.mythsandfacts.org/Mandate-DEC-12-2013-EN.pdf
You might want to read the Palestine papers at the Avalon Project, Yale. You can read the documents without commentary.
I'm talking about the irrevocable right of the Jewish people over the Land of Israel and which it is still valid thanks to Article 80 of the UN Charter + the adoption of the purpose of the document of the Mandate in the US from a Joint resolution adoptted that in "Palestine" a country will be established for the Jewish people. This reight is still preserved and still valid thanks to Article 80 of the UN Charter. It was written because your comment's topic talked about the US position on "Palestine" question from 1946.
It is known that the ancient Egyptians knew the area had a name like that. Hence that gives a legitimacy of all the Palestinians to live there.
