Judge K, despite Dr. Ford's testimony, will be confirmed and . . .

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Judge K will be confirmed and his confirmation will lead to a greater Dem vote on election day

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    It has been investigated. The FBI took her letter determined nothing for them to investigate turned over to the Senate and their investigators investigated and interviewed or took witness statements and there is nothing back her claims.

    Tell me how this investigation would manifest itself? What would they investigate? There was no report filed at the time. There are no contemporaneous witnesses as required in a sexual assault accusation. There is no forensic evidence. Her story has shifted and key facts proven false already.
     
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    Thanks for proving this is all about abortion.
     
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    Why the delay? Because it is he said she said, that's why. 80% of women who have been sexually abused do not report it. Simply
    put, these people do not want to testify in public, under oath and become the subject of death threats to themselves and their families.
    These women were very young at the time. Now they are mature women with families and do not want to get involved. They
    have moved on with their lives and it didn't happen to them anyway. Why would Dr. Ford put someone else in the room? Was it
    a nefarious plot? If I was a lawyer I would advise my client that no good would come from this and then she would make her decision.
    Again, why the rush? We know why, don't we? The Republican senators want to get it done before the election.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    I don't know and neither do you. 19 women came forth as accusers of Trump. No physical proof. Lots of time has passed. Yet, the flock
    dismisses these women as liars. All of them. Closed minds and Trump supporters, so it doesn't matter what the truth is.
     
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    So what, how does delaying that change that? She claimed witnesses and NONE of them support her claims UNDER THREAT OF A FELONY. Ford is desperate for anything to back her claims even going so far as tell the WaPo here is a witness who will no remember but because I say she is a witness you have to believe what I tell you she witnessed as fact.

    Kimberley Strassel‏Verified account @KimStrassel 13h13 hours ago
    10) In its most recent update tonight, WaPo writes: "Before her name became public, Ford told The Post she did not think Keyser would remember the party because nothing remarkable had happened there, as far as Keyser was aware."
     
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    You're the one calling for an investigation by the FBI what are they supposed to investigate? She tells them these are my witnesses. Everyone of them has made official statements to federal investigators under penalty of perjury these accusations are not true. What is there to investigate? Forensic evidence? There is none. Contemporaneous statements, they were none. The alleged party, she can not say when it was or where it was.

    What is there to investigate?
     
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    And you, somehow, magically, know "THE" truth......(in-spite of the fact that none of it has been proven :rolleyes:
     
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    Why the demands for the delay? We know why, don't we? The Democrats want to delay the confirmation until after the election, and hopefully, stop it.
     
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    Speaking of closed minds...
    Ford doesn't have a date, time, place or list of people who were there.... and yet, you believe her.
     
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    It's called "Unicorn Truth" and "Unicorn Magic".....aka...."Snowflake Proof". Dems use it frequently to "prove" their points.
     
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    I do not claim that only arguments against abortion are religious. This is covered in detail in my post. I did claim that the main impetus behind the anti abort crowd is religious.

    The religious right does not even make the religious argument - in public. They know this is a non starter and so try to come up with other arguments.

    Regardless - you have built a strawman.
     
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    Abortion has been a litmus test for many on the left for decades. It is not like this is some big secret.
     
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    If she did not like it she would not have gone to the party.
     
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    It happened in a room and not in front of partygoers. I don't think that this is going anywhere, and I don't believe that she is lying.
     
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    How about investigating the incident more thoroughly with testimony. In your mind, she is a "snake." I don't agree.
     
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    No, I don't know the truth and that is why there should be a more thorough investigation. You think that you do know the truth because
    Trump says so.
     
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    yes and yes. I want to find the truth and don't want to rush it. I don't care who wants what.
     
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    I do believe her and I don't want to see him eliminated unless a thorough investigation is undertaken.
     
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    Agreed on a thorough investigation. Why do you think Trump won't call for one?
     
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    I didn't know that it was that kind of party. Thanks for enlightening me. I will stay away from parties from now on.
     
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    He wants him approved and doesn't give a rat's ass whether or not she was sexually molested. Let's not forget that he is the sexual abuser in chief and has admitted it. He surely doesn't want this thing to mushroom.
     
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    She can't tell you the date, time, place, or who was there - why do t you believe her?
     
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    At worst, it was sexual assault, not molestation. Yes, Trump wants him approved and, being a sexual assaulter, an adulterer and a man who uses women himself, doesn't care about what happened to a 15 year old girl over 3 decades ago.
     
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    I can't tell you the date, time or address of where I lost my virginity in th e1970s. I doubt most people can. How does that disprove her trauma which she discussed with a therapist and her husband in 2012?
     

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