Just Imagine How Different Things Would've Been If Trump Accepted His Defeat With Grace and Dignity

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  1. Sanskrit

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    One can come to only one possible conclusion, cigarettes are good for you.
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

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    So? That doesn't mean I can't ask that particular question.

    Well, given Navarro's integrity issues ( "Ron Vara" fake 'expert' ) and penchant for conspiracy theories, all of which have been debunked, I'd say the odds now are that you are highly likely to be wrong.

    Moreover, that you assert you are a lawyer which you have mistakenly offered to strengthen your argument is a logical fallacy on its face. I suggest a thorough review of the Carl Sagan Baloney detection kit, the section under 'appeals to authority'. Now, if we were arguing an area of law over which you profess to be an expert, I might defer to your knowledge, but all that is at issue here is the validity of evidence. Well now, given the wholesale rejection of cases by some 60 judges on efforts to invalidate the election in order to get Trump another term, apparently the validity of evidence, and/or arguments for their client (Trump) are not a strong point with pro Trump lawyers.

    Answer me this: A number of the judges were appointed by republican presidents, and few were appointed by Trump. So, it begs the question: if there were any merit whatsoever to the arguments presented to some 60 courts, why in holy hell do ALL of these judges reject, wholesale, their arguments? Did they all suddenly become members of the 'deep state' and are now out to get Trump? ( rhetorical question, no need to answer ).

    And, how many lawyers these days even want to have Trump as a client? Absolutely NONE of the esteemed law firms in Washington want anything to do with him, and of late, none of the mediocre lawyers he has hired in the past want anything to do with him.

    Ahh, but of course, Trump has Sanskrit, here on PF, batting for him in his corner.

    But, so far, you're striking out.
     
  3. Sanskrit

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    That you aren't a lawyer wasn't the point of me posting that. Stopped reading there.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

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    How is 'tobacco science' relevant to the argument?
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

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    I raised some other salient, and very relevant points.

    So, you are saying, because I'm not a lawyer, you are not going to consider them?

    If that is your view, it's not a merit worthy view.

    One doesn't have to be a lawyer to successfully deliver an argument.

    Moreover, being a lawyer, per se, doesn't even strengthen your argument.

    Why? Because 'posturing' (puffing yourself up by claiming authority ) is a pseudo-debate technique, and that might fool some of the lesser souls, it doesn't work with me.
     
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    You'll figure it out.
     
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    Again, that wasn't the point of that post.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

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    Your problem is obvious.
     
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    Yep..

    Normally a president sees a bump in their public approval rating when leaving office. Obama's went up by 3 points between election day and inauguration day. Bush 43 and Clinton saw theirs go up by 9 points, and Bush 41 saw his go up by 22 points.

    Trump saw his drop 12 points.. and the thing is.. it's entirely his fault.
     
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  10. Andrew Jackson

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    Exactly.

    Then again, that is (probably) to be expected (if not certain) when a Completely Unqualified Person, with no respect for the dignity of the office (who had no business ever being elected in the first place) takes over.

    Good riddance.
     
  11. Andrew Jackson

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    In light of the Jan. 6th Hearings--Worthy of a *Bump*:

    Just Imagine How Different Things Would've Been If Trump Accepted His Defeat With Grace and Dignity


    ***The Deadly Capitol Riot (Caused by the Trump-Inspired Domestic Terrorists, that cost, at least, 7 American Lives) Would have Never Happened.

    ***You wouldn't have needed 25,000 Troops (on Inauguration Day) to Protect Biden From Domestic Terrorists.

    ***Rudy Giuliani (Well-Respected after 9/11) has become a Pathetic Caricature (Who has Lost ALL Respect).

    ***There could have actually been a Classy and Respectful Transfer of Power (Which Trump's Blatant Conspiratorial Imbecility Prevented).

    ***Had Trump wanted to Run again in 2024, had he handled his Landslide Defeat with Grace and Class--That would had given him a good chance (had he chose to Run).
    NOW--He has Zero Chance of being the 2024 Nominee and his name has become Poison to the GOP's Election Chances

    ***The Senate would have probably stayed in GOP Hands.
    EXCEPT--Trump's Conspiratorial IDIOCY single-handedly cost the Dems BOTH GA Senate seats.

    ***People such as Cruz and Hawley who could have been First-Tier Candidates in 2024, have now committed (effective) career suicide by throwing in with Trump's MORONIC Conspiracies.

    Once again:

    Just Imagine How Different Things Would've Been If Trump Accepted His Defeat With Grace and Dignity.
     
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  12. MJ Davies

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    * Pence and his family wouldn't have to hop from place to place with family and in hotels because they've been ruthlessly threatened.

    * Our lawmakers would not need to have trauma therapy related to the events that happened that day with their POTUS ignoring their pleas.

    * The Biden Administration would have not been locked out of the White House after the Inauguration if Trump didn't fire the staff on his last day in office.

    * The Biden Administration could have had a seamless transition to hit the ground running since there was so much Trump mess to clean up.

    * People would be in favor of vaccines and our percentages would have been high enough to reach herd immunity.

    * Some people that claim to believe in "law and order" wouldn't have sided with the criminals in the Capitol riot. Five (5) police officers would probably still be alive.

    * People would not be confronted and attacked in the street for displaying political signs the attacker(s) don't agree with.

    * Our courts wouldn't be inundated with criminal cases arising from the crimes at the Capitol riot.

    * A cleaning crew would have not been hired to clean feces and urine where it was left outside the restrooms.

    * The Taliban would have not had free reign to take over Afghanistan and seize billions of dollars in military equipment and supplies.

    * Trump supporters would not been demanding that we turn our back on our friends and allies in Afghanistan because Trump claimed Biden was letting in terrorists.

    * The Chinese government wouldn't have expressed concerns about him starting a war over his loss.

    * There would not have been a mass exodus of top people that either resigned or were fired because they wouldn't repeat his Big Lie.

    * There would not be division, chaos and splintering in their party.

    * There would not be a rise in ridiculous laws to silence and disenfranchise voters in non-R counties that he has coerced some Governors to pass.

    * There would not have been subterfuge among his SCOTUS appointees relative to Roe v. Wade.



    He has set this country back decades. It's going to take a long time to clean the Orange Stain. Probably generations.

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  13. Andrew Jackson

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    Nice additions, MJ...:flagus:
     

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