Kagan Helped Prepare Defense of Obamacare

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  1. Radio Refugee

    Radio Refugee New Member

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    It's a shame that we inhabit a lawless society. Because if we didn't Kagan's work as Solicitor General preparing the legal defense of Obamacare would be automatic grounds for her recusal when (not if) the case hits the USSC. But no worries. The thugs in power won't allow that to happen. The thieves of liberty will guarantee Kagan steals just a bit more.

    I'm always confused. Is there anyone that knows for certain that Kagan in not in fact Nathan Lane in drag?
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    Lastly, who on earth would use e-mail? Pick up the blower, people. E-mail is 4ever.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see one Supreme Court Justice that MUST recuse herself when Obama Care makes it to the SCOTUS. It has to happen. Elana Kagan simply can't be impartial considering the conflict of interest that exists. Get some popcorn, this one's going to be a real Circus.
     
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    She has been the one protecting efforts on his Birth. She got rewarded.
     
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    Inactive928 Banned

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    If Scalia will recuse himself, I'll agree on Kagan doing same.

    Otherwise, try your third-world kangaroo courting in the appropriate venue (a third world, or a zoo).
     
  5. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yea.....when was Scalia Solicitor General and had anything to do with Obama Care?
     
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    seems like the right thing to do for the country. But, like the gay judge in Cal who "ruled" against the voters will, she will do the corrupt thing.
     
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    Because he's failed to do so in the past, when he should have. Plus, his wife is like a lobbyist or some such.

    And basically because he's got a few screws loose (the famous "what would Jack Bauer do" quote, for one).

    Edit: It's Thomas's wife that is the lobbyist. Oops.

     
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    This is exactly why Leftninnies should NEVER BE on the SCOTUS; they care not for the rule of law, or the Constitution, but care only for the "agenda".

    Such judicial fiats as forced busing, the outrageous Kelo verdict, etc., are examples of what happens when Leftninny judges decide that they ARE the legislative as well as judicial branch of government.
     
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    The Bench. Use in case of emergency...when honest, cogent arguments fail to garner majority support.
     
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    Gratuitous bump.
     
  11. Professor Peabody

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    Things will change.....eventually.
     
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    When was Scalia Solicitor General and had anything to do with Obama Care?
     
  13. Professor Peabody

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    She's a liberal ain't she...............
     
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    Oh my: Documents reveal that Kagan may have helped craft legal defense of ObamaCare:

    She won’t recuse herself, needless to say. Defending their signature domestic “achievement” when it’s under mortal threat from a constitutional challenge is much, much more important to the left than observing ethical rules. Which is why, of course, they’ve been hassling Clarence Thomas about a supposed conflict of interest in his own right vis-a-vis ObamaCare. They know Kagan is compromised, so they’re setting up a “tu quoque” rejoinder for when, not if, the GOP takes up this point in earnest.

    I wonder if they know how compromised she is.

    On March 21, 2010, Katyal urged Kagan to attend a health care litigation meeting that was evidently organized by the Obama White House: “This is the first I’ve heard of this. I think you should go, no? I will, regardless, but feel like this is litigation of singular importance.”

    In another email exchange that took place on January 8, 2010, Katyal’s Department of Justice colleague Brian Hauck asked Katyal about putting together a group to discuss challenges to Obamacare. “Could you figure out the right person or people for that?” Hauck asked. “Absolutely right on. Let’s crush them,” Katyal responded. “I’ll speak with Elena and designate someone.”

    However, following the May 10, 2010, announcement that President Obama would nominate Kagan to the U.S. Supreme Court, Katyal position changed significantly as he began to suggest that Kagan had been “walled off” from Obamacare discussions…

    “Any reasonable person would read these documents and come to the same conclusion: Elena Kagan helped coordinate the Obama administration’s defense of Obamacare. And as long as the Justice Department continues to withhold key documents, the American people won’t know for sure whether her involvement would warrant her recusal from any Obamacare litigation that comes before the High Court,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

    March 21, 2010 was the day ObamaCare passed the House and, for all intents and purposes, became law. It’s hard to believe Kagan, as solicitor general, wouldn’t have showed up for a legal strategy session held that day, let alone at any point over the previous six months as the bill was working its way through Congress. But here’s the excuse they’re going to offer the public:

    On May 17, 2010, for example, Tracy Schmaler, a Department of Justice spokesperson wrote to Katyal, “Has Elena been involved in any of that to the extent SG office was consulted … ?”

    “No, she has never been involved in any of it. I’ve run it for the office, and have never discussed the issues with her one bit,” was Katyal’s response. He then forwarded the correspondence to Kagan, saying “This is what I told Tracy about Health Care.”

    Kagan’s response: “This needs to be coordinated. Tracy you should not say anything about this before talking to me.”

    Other email chains between Kagan, White House lawyers and Vice President Joe Biden’s then-Chief of Staff Ronald Klain show a coordinated effort on how to respond to questions about the health-care law that may have arisen in the confirmation hearings.

    Just so we’re straight on the timeline here: On March 21, the day ObamaCare was passed, Katyal is inviting Kagan to strategy sessions about the new law. On April 9, John Paul Stevens resigns and speculation erupts about Kagan succeeding him. On May 17, Katyal is suddenly telling people that Kagan’s never been involved in anything — even though she is, in fact, the solicitor general of the United States and even though he explicitly invited her to a meeting about the law less than two months earlier — and Kagan is warning people via e-mail to make sure everyone has their story straight on what she knew by “coordinating.” Is that about right? I want to make sure we’re all square on this nonsense for when the mandate challenge finally reaches the Court and we’re told by her office that everything is magically copacetic.

    Link: http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/18/oh-my-documents-reveal-that-kagan-may-have-helped-craft-legal-defense-of-obamacare/
     
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    Kagan is hard to look at.
     
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    For a Liberal she's mighty fat, ya don't get that way from eating tofu.

    Check out the loony lib from Connecticut.

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    I'm truly shocked! Are you trying to tell me that a Supreme Court Justice may be politically motivated and thus NOT be impartial??? :omg:
     
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    You know you would actually have a point, IF Justice Scalia had some prior involvement with the case.


    But since, Justice Scalia didn't have any prior involvement with Obamacare or the litigation around the law.

    Unlike Kagan who did, not only do you not have a point.

    Once again ladies and gents, here come the liberals throwing such things as moral's and ethics out the window.

    The instant, the second, such things as ethic's or moral's might possibly get in the way of liberals imposing their leftist National Socialist tyranny upon the American people.

    Thanks for demonstrating once again, that the marxist led, liberal left is all too willing to throw the law, ethics and morals right out the window and under the bus.

    The instant such things as ethics, moral's, or the law.

    Get into the way of the dictator-like imposition of the leftist National Socialist political agenda on the American people, and thus, also demonstrating precisely why the American people should vote even more of the liberals out of our government in 2012. ;)
     
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    What prior involvement has Justice Thomas had with Obamacare, or the litigation surrounding the law?
     
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    That's certainly no Sarah Palin or Michelle bachman!
     
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    Quite frankly, I don't know.
     
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    You forgot Kristi Noem

    back to the OP. it is things like this that really need to have light shed upon them. Nope, instead we get Obama birth certificate t-shirts and mugs and the media's new focus of attack is Newt.
     
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    Leftys dont care about whats right.

    They want Free Stuff and they dont care what law they have to break nor who they steal it from....

    They want Free Stuff and thats all they care about.

    PS Can I have a wavier?
     
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    She has to recuse herself, otherwise there is no point in even bringing the case.
     
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    Scalia wasn't involved in Obamacare.
     

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