Key diplomat says he will testify in House impeachment inquiry despite Trump’s objection

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  1. RP12

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    Claims about whataboutism is equal to saying you dont want to discuss something and we know damn why.. The whole outrage falls apart.

    I hate repeating myself.
     
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    I think they are feeeeling sensitive..

    LOL for 40 years Trump has been whining that he's treated unfairly and the system is rigged against him when he wasn't lying and cheating and screwing over some bank or investor or wife.
     
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    And yet you do so many times.

    Do you have a comment about the topic of this thread? Or would you like to not discuss it?
     
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    Can't hold Trump to a higher standard while ignoring what “your own” people just did. THATS called corruption. Can’t impeach one while letting others go free because they’re on your side. You understand what that leads to? Either EVERYONE gets fried or no one does.
     
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    Please enlighten us on your response to the topic of this thread.
     
  6. RP12

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    I replied to your post.. You can chose to ignore it if you like.. What you cant do is badger me.. Your valid complaints about my post is making your post off topic. The irony.

    You spoke about qtp so did i.. Again.. Dont like it.. Ignore it.
     
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    I can do more than ignore the post.
     
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    You need real proof and not deep state conspiracy theories
     
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    Knock yourself out now can you explain why one case of supposed qtp was shown to be nothing but others i mentioned "gave the appearance" or flat out did and you seem fine with it....
     
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    You mean 2nd hand information of a phone call we can all read the transcript to?
     
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    ...And the text messages and soon the testimony of those involved. Must I remind you that Sondland already told a senator about the QPQ ? Or the arrests of members of trumps leagal team in Ukraine?
     
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    And told him in the same texts that it was not going on... Did you miss that part?
     
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    Lol yah, 5 hours later after talking to trump, and he asks to stop having this in writing.
     
  14. Egoboy

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    What the heck is qtp?? A new brand of motor oil??

    Sheesh

    Both examples of QPQ are still in play, with withholding the military aid being seen as much more important than dangling a personal meeting with Trump at the White House...

    2nd prize is TWO personal meetings with Trump... LOL
     
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    Still waiting on that real proof of Trump using quid pro quo or working with Russia back in 2016. Every instance of Trump doing terrible things has been conspiracy theories, opinions or outright lies...besides cheating on his wives.
     
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    Sondland texted with Senator Ron Johnson too??

    Man, you are all over the place... If this was Chutes and Ladders, you'd be back on Square #4 by now...
     
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    If you have a concern about something and you are close to a person but it relationship wise or through a job dont you ask that person?

    Or do you go to someone like Schiff to help tell you what to say.
     
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    Wow Schiff is good, was he on the call too? How did he know about the QPQ?
     
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    I'm just curious what you are going to say when Sondland tells the Impeachment Inquiry team that Trump dictated that text.... you know he did, the middle part at least.... the part about stopping further texting could have come from either...
     
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    This is what i speak of..
    • "I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign," Bill Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat to Ukraine, texted Sondland.
    • Sondland texted back: "Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump's intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo's of any kind."

     
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    Nah he’s choosing to ignore what Johnson was told. To be fair, So is Johnson lol
     
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    if he has any real proof than lay it out there. Otherwise it’s just another mans opinion and interpretation of events or feelings. NOT proof of anything. If he’s got it show it and welcome in President Pence. Otherwise its just more grandstanding.

    Hillary simply said she never intended to do anything wrong and all charges against her were dropped in a snap. Never mind she destroyed a bunch of evidence. It was THAT easy. Poof. Rather strange. Trump is held to a higher standard.
     
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    Like most Americans, he easily equated a unilateral withholding of military aid with a personal favor asked of that same country.

    It don't take Columbo to fit those 2 pieces together...
     
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    You would be correct if the Ukraine President thought or took it that way. But... You guys dont care about that part of it as it doesnt fit the narrative.
     
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    LOL... the more I read that segment I posted above, how can anybody not say that is garden variety QPQ??

    I was a web programmer over most of my career, and I certainly recognize an IF/THEN statement when I see one...

    SNIP
    Johnson said that the US ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, told him in late August that the administration was demanding Ukraine investigate “what happened in 2016,” and that if President Trump had “confidence” in the investigation, he’d “release the military spending.”
    ENDSNIP
     
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