Keystone Pipeline suing Biden admin for $15B in damages

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why doesn't Biden claim his job increases are not permanent positions?

    PS, it was your own link that you now allege is an insider.
    When a nation blocks oil imports, who gets hurt? Your link proved America gets hurt.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which positions are you referring to?

    Again, it addressed several of the ‘big lies’ surrounding the issue.

    It didn’t prove anything, they made a statement. The only things they proved (with data) is that most of the large ‘issues’ surrounding this are not based in reality.
     
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    You don't? REALLY? Pretty obvious where the DNC and it's supporters hang their hats these days o_O
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden is fond of shoving this claim out that the positions lost were not permanent, and my question for any Bidenista to answer is why doesn't he diminish his job gains by pointing out those are not permanent positions? By the way, I used your own link. And now you want to walk backwards away from your own link? To diminish your own link? Fine with me that you think that way.
     
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    Why are you against the pipeline? It’s not your money being spent building it andit’s the safest way to move oil. There are companies out there who invested billions of dollars in the pipeline and they think it has value. Meanwhile coal plants are popping all across the globe in many places Greta won’t visit.
     
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    I am not really ‘against’ it per say — the environmental issues are there as well as the land ownership.

    Just because I can acknowledge both sides and call out partisan BS when I see it doesn’t mean I am ‘for’ or ‘against’ something.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You posted a link that did not prove anything? What data are you now claiming is proved? When you virtually attacked them on other matters?
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline#Phase_4_(cancelled)
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Energy is a partisan issue? Am I reading right that Biden made it partisan BS?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you said "Actually the one Obama cancelled is up and running"
    my source says "In 2015, President Barack Obama blocked the project"
    Than Donald enters the room and me source says:
    "On January 20, 2021, President Joe Biden revoked the permit"

    So it's all and the same part.
     
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    Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that construction jobs are not permanent.

    Bidenista, cute! You are trying to imagine the people that voted for Biden are cult like, like the trump supporters.
    You will find very few people that are Biden ‘cult’ members (most of us don’t even like him) but your projection is f’ing hilarious. I needed a laugh, thanks for that.
    I wonder if the unbiased mods will be along shortly to slap you with an infraction like they do when someone uses the words trumpets or trumper — I wager no.

    Again, what jobs are you referring to?
    I used the data from the link. You are wanting to put opinion on the same level as data.
    I understand that is a difficult concept to separate seeing your political affiliation but I assure you, there are differences.
     
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    You are talking the Canadian environment, way the hell far above the USA Border with Canada. I have not heard of the Canadian problem with land ownership as an issue.

    This nation, to remind you is loaded with pipelines. I have them down the street. They carry toxic stuff.
    I prefer pipes to trucks and even to trains of oil.

    Canada will move their bitumen. If not by pipe, by train or truck.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really, I used your own data from your own link. So fine that you use data, but never let me also use data. Amazing.

    My first long term job was in Construction. Those people do one job and start the next one. We built America's roads, bridges and foundations for sky scrapers.
    I do understand Construction.

    BTW since you do not like Biden, why complain when I speak of those who like the man?
     
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    Do pipelines leak?
     
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    No where near as much as trains spill.
     
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    Everything leaks, including the natural gas pipes to your house, but you take that inherently small risk and compare it to the value of having natural gas in your house. I’d even go as far as saying that I hear more stories about natural gas lines blowing up houses than deadly pipeline leaks.
     
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    And pollute. Hey, what fuel does a train run on?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I made your attacks in tiny print.
    I ask again, why doesn't Biden point out that many of his job gains are also not permanent?
     
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    So yes then
    Thus the environmental concerns remain
     
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    Which jobs are your referencing?

    Should I make it multicolored so you can see the question?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WOW, the old pipelines leak excuse.

    Brother if that is your fear, you will advocate for all pipelines in America to be shoved into the grave. Are you aware of the vast network of pipelines in America?

    Do you understand mitigation? I think you actually do. Suppose you constructed a new oil pipeline. Dummies do not do that. Engineers design them. Now since you are now a clever engineer, knowing some worry about leaks, don't you design the pipeline to mitigate that?

    Why would a pipeline leak? Factor that in and mitigate for it.
     
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    So you are saying pipelines do not leak?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Damn, I assumed you understood this. How can you keep discussing a topic you do not understand?
    All the new jobs Biden brags about. Many involve those non permanent jobs you deride as not permanent.
     
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    "The lawsuit from 21 states, led by Texas and Montana, argues that revoking the cross-border permit is a "regulation of interstate and international commerce" that should be left to Congress and that Biden's move was an overreach."

    which means Trump should not of signed a EO to allow it, Congress should have handled it

    Biden undid Trump's overreach

    that is the problem with EO's
     
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